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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309717 Archived-At: > On Aug 31, 2023, at 4:21 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >=20 > On 31/08/2023 17:09, Michael Albinus wrote: >>>>> If they aren't, then which capabilities_are_ important to have = that >>>>> we don't have on debbugs? >>>> Just the common bug tracker stuff, mostly related to Web UI = (allowing >>>> one to easily read and join a discussion, subscribe to it, = unsubscribe, >>>> syntax-highlighted code snippets, linking of issues between = themselves, >>>> links between issues and commits, closing issues from commits, = assigning >>>> issues to specific developers, ...). Also better working search and = a >>>> very visible page "latest active issues/discussions". >>> If those are the main points, perhaps we should also explore the >>> possibility of adding them to debbugs? >> The Guix people have written their own Web UI on top of = debbugs.gnu.org, >> . Perhaps you can ask for their view. >=20 > Thank you for the reminder. It's a definite improvement over Debbugs's = website. And I think it's a little better since I last saw it, too. >=20 > Rather interesting on its own, it's a Scheme (Guile) application = working on top of the Debbugs database schema (which is apparently just = one table, huh). >=20 > It's not a very ambitious project (at least judging by the readme: = https://git.elephly.net/software/mumi/tree/-//README.org), so it seems = we're not very likely to see it grow into something bigger. There is no = interaction with the discussions from the browser that I could test = (apparently, there is some commenting feature, but it's disabled on = Guix's installation). >=20 > Either way, it checks off a few items from my list (the "Recent = activity" being IMHO the most important, but also better search), so if = we could have it in use right now just by snapping a finger, I'd = probably vote yes. A definite winner in the category of keeping = everybody's workflows as-is while still improving some things. In that vein, woof [1] of Org Mode is also a nice project that = communicates recent development activities. [1] https://tracker.orgmode.org/ Yuan=