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[24.56.179.184]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y38sm6609913ita.18.2019.02.26.05.24.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:24:22 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16D57) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d30 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233631 Archived-At: I don=E2=80=99t think you could have a regexp object without a read syntax. R= eading a regexp is such a common operation, where as reading a frame has lim= ited usefulness.=20 - Troy Hinckley > On Feb 26, 2019, at 5:39 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >=20 > Richard Stallman writes: >=20 >> If we add a regexp type, we would need to add several primitive >> functions. I estimate it would make the Emacs Lisp reference Manual >> 10 pages longer. We would need a read syntax for them too. >=20 > We don't need a read syntax for all new objects. For instance, we have > no read syntax for >=20 > (window-frame) -> # >=20 > --=20 > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no >=20