From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Loading souce Elisp faster Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:35:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: (message from StefanMonnier on Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:40:37 -0500) <877glwtt5i.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361806575 8779 80.91.229.3 (25 Feb 2013 15:36:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Kenichi Handa'" , "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 25 16:36:37 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UA06P-0008BV-9W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:36:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36395 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA064-0001RU-Jg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:36:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA05v-0001HL-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:36:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA05r-0004KA-2o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:35:59 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:42235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA05q-0004Jw-Qv; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:35:54 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r1PFZrUl006822 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:35:54 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1PFZqmD000015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:35:53 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt105.oracle.com (abhmt105.oracle.com [141.146.116.57]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r1PFZqea016543; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:35:52 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:35:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <877glwtt5i.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac4TXL4+bMsT9bcAQNOpQo9nVk91KAADnuFg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157320 Archived-At: > > So basically, all we need to do is to be able to easily > > recognize "Elisp source in utf-8 encoding". One way to do > > that would be to use a BOM-like marker, e.g. start utf-8 > > Elisp files with "\ufeff" either at the very beginning of > > the file or right after a semi-colon (for better > > backward compatibility). > > We can have "coding: utf-8;" tag at the first line. Isn't it > enough? Thank you. A voice of reason. So far, the proposed changes (and the entire discussion) sound like a solution looking for a problem. What's the problem with an explicit "coding: utf-8;" declaration? Isn't it enough?