From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Parker, Brian" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4870: Emacs install with new personality Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:12:34 -0600 Message-ID: Reply-To: "Parker, Brian" , 4870@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F63A57F12920C14D8271DF3B0187035208401ECC51HICGWSEX01adh_" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257393873 27084 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2009 04:04:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:04:33 +0000 (UTC) To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 05 05:04:26 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N5taB-0007wo-Bn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:04:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53458 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5taA-0006kU-PI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:04:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5oK6-0002Uu-9K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:27:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5oK1-0002RU-DT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:27:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41120 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5oK0-0002RF-FJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:27:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:44001) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5oJy-0001eR-Sx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:27:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nA4MRGO9006941; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:27:16 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA4MK5ZI005850; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:20:05 -0800 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:20:05 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Parker, Brian" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:20:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 4870 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12573727694956 (code B ref -1); Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:20:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 4 Nov 2009 22:12:49 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Still, I am desperate enough to get just one small clue about = what happened to my emacs that I am trying this approach. My name is Brian Parker. I am a hardware (ASIC, FPGA) engineer for Harman = International. I realize you have no obligation to help me with anything (since I really d= oubt this is a bug) and if I get no response I will also understand. It ce= rtainly won't leave me any worse off than I am right now. I have used Emacs for at least 15 years - primarily for Verilog-based desig= ns. Still, I do not know LISP nor am I really an expert on Emacs - but I l= ike it when it is set up right (for me). Recently, (until Monday Nov 2), I was using Emacs 22 on a Ubuntu (9.4) Linu= x system. It was working wonderfully. I made the mistake of upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10. This upgrade wiped out my = Emacs (not my .emacs file). I had to reinstall Emacs - version 22 again as= far as I can tell. Now it does not work correctly at all. I will describe 4 of the most notic= eable and annoying behaviors on the new install. If you might have any clu= e as to what my problem is and are willing to just point me in the right di= rection, I will try to follow through and figure this out. 1 - The "Revert-buffer" option on the "File" menu no longer works. It is g= rayed out. M-x revert-buffer still works but the menu item does not. Form= erly this has always worked and I rely on it a lot. 2 - The "Buffers" menu no longer shows all the buffers I have open. It dro= ps down but only shows that I have the *GNU Emacs* buffer, the *scratch* bu= ffer, and the *Messages* buffer. None of my other buffers are listed anymo= re. This has always worked before. 3 - When I scroll using the scroll bar (and mouse cursor of course) I must = keep the cursor exactly on the scroll bar (i.e. no wandering outside of the= Emacs window frame) or else the position of the text goes right back to wh= ere I started when I let the mouse button up. This is very annoying - and= did not function this way prior to my "upgrade". 4 - When scrolling using the scroll bar, text is selected and highlighted. = I know that I can select text with the mouse cursor but I don't want to se= lect when just scrolling with the scroll bar. This is also new behavior. I have searched the manuals, tutorials, on-line tips, and will continue to = do so. However, I figured anyone there obviously already knows MUCH more a= bout the guts of this editor than I do. Thanks for your time, Brian --_000_F63A57F12920C14D8271DF3B0187035208401ECC51HICGWSEX01adh_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To whomever might help:

 

I actually don’t believe this i= s an Emacs bug – so I hesitate to bother you with this.  Still, I am desperate enough to get just one small clue about what happened to my emacs= that I am trying this approach.

 

My name is Brian Parker.  I am a hardware (ASIC, FP= GA) engineer for Harman International.

 

I realize you have no obligation to help me with anythin= g (since I really doubt this is a bug= ) and if I get no response I will also understand.  It certainly won’t leave me any worse off than I am right now.

 

I have used Emacs for at least 15 years – primaril= y for Verilog-based designs.  Still, I do not know LISP nor am I really = an expert on Emacs – but I like it when it is set up right (for me).

 

Recently, (until Monday Nov 2), I was using Emacs 22 on = a Ubuntu (9.4) Linux system.  It was working wonderfully.

 

I made the mistake of upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10.  Th= is upgrade wiped out my Emacs (not my .emacs file).  I had to reinstall E= macs – version 22 again as far as I can tell.

 

Now it does not work correctly at all.  I will desc= ribe 4 of the most noticeable and annoying behaviors on the new install.  I= f you might have any clue as to what my problem is and are willing to just po= int me in the right direction, I will try to follow through and figure this out= .

 

1 – The “Revert-buffer” option on the “File” menu no longer works.  It is grayed out.  M-x revert-buffer still works but the menu item does not.  Formerly this h= as always worked and I rely on it a lot.

 

2 – The “Buffers” menu no longer shows= all the buffers I have open.  It drops down but only shows that I have the= *GNU Emacs* buffer, the *scratch* buffer, and the *Messages* buffer.  None of my ot= her buffers are listed anymore.  This has always worked before.=

 

3 – When I scroll using the scroll bar (and mouse cursor of course) I must keep the cursor exactly on the scroll bar (i.e. no wandering outside of the Emacs window frame) or else the position of the te= xt goes right back to where I started when I let the mouse button up.   This is very annoying – and did not function this way pri= or to my “upgrade”.

 

4 – When scrolling using the scroll bar, text is selected and highlighted.  I know that I can select text with the mous= e cursor but I don’t want to select when just scrolling with the scroll bar.  This is also new behavior.

 

I have searched the manuals, tutorials, on-line tips, an= d will continue to do so.  However, I figured anyone = there obviously already knows MUCH more about the guts of this editor than I do.

 

Thanks for your time,

Brian

 

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