From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Warren Harris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: white is #e5e5e5 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:25:32 -0800 Message-ID: References: <07807786-5346-4F06-8FAE-EF2BF97B0460@gmail.com> <55297C51-B5E1-4ED3-B87D-5F0F1770D168@freelon.org> <493AD3CD-4BA8-4FB7-B32F-5CC82834B424@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--223246829 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295911601 30467 80.91.229.12 (24 Jan 2011 23:26:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Perry Smith Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 00:26:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PhVnw-0004iH-Bs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:26:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PhVnv-0001Oh-RC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:26:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57467 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PhVn0-0001NJ-Nu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:25:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PhVmy-0007du-SC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:25:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:47540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PhVmy-0007dn-Nl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:25:36 -0500 Original-Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so4536363qwa.0 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:25:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ewBolUaDwSxCLUEMJjdxzztyHga/JrBpWrYEtGsrRLE=; b=ikvfz2ZcGo6Hqq3N4OHIH3xEgp4CYk7lplA275lOpXbZe+KGTDJWC2IMF1y27Q5KTB fNRWZKF6Pt9OLkmbrvCEg10uULQzX3aAgFiPCjnEWpnECLflXu7vXCudmuwVnb4MPdu4 +lFs/Se7cKe0dJnM4YCAw7y1x1zitEBfmKMRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=BGJgcYURVo6Z3aSYADggycCtjLs+9kL/pw8weL4A0HZELLU8ZXOolVByoPxyngBnc+ MowtDNz+x6u8LmYkxeKNOVPhIY5PitkebsVwtQ/aSeVlZfVdeq0viYiVYG7PpA19y9OM zlcHZ4cq+iZPKrEtgNFW9kgn8jWrtl1pqRcMg= Original-Received: by 10.224.94.13 with SMTP id x13mr4641487qam.360.1295911536237; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:25:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from dhcp-172-19-247-116.mtv.corp.google.com ([216.239.45.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm9752088qcs.16.2011.01.24.15.25.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:25:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:78725 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-3--223246829 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Perry,=20 Thanks for your help. I'm glad you were at least able to reproduce the = problem. I'll try experimenting with removing things from my .emacs file = to see if that makes a difference.=20 BTW, sounds like our monitors display the grey a little differently. My = second monitor is much lighter, but my macbook pro seems dark. The green = or magenta text on a grey background is virtually unreadable.=20 Warren On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Perry Smith wrote: >=20 > I telnet'ed to a Unix system and then back to my laptop (Mac). > Started Emacs -nw and it came up in the terminal. >=20 > I get the same list for list-color-display that you got. I have a > black menu with white text at the top. My mode lines are black with > white. My normal text is black on white background. The *scratch* > butter starts with a "red" messages on white background. >=20 > All of these are muted slightly... the red is not full on and the > write is very slightly grey. But it sounds like your grey is darker. >=20 > My guess is the terminfo on Ubuntu is not exactly compatible with > Mac's Terminal.app... but that seems rather unlikely. >=20 > My second guess is Ubuntu has modified emacs in this area but that > also seems unlikely. >=20 > I don't know enough about how the colors and faces all interact or how > to customize them. Hopefully someone else on this list will pipe up. >=20 > You might try not using the daemon approach and, in particular, try > starting without using your init file. Perhaps there is something > in there that is confusing things. >=20 > Sorry I can't be more help. >=20 > Perry >=20 --Apple-Mail-3--223246829 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I = telnet'ed to a Unix system and then back to my laptop = (Mac).
Started Emacs -nw and it came up in the = terminal.

I get the same list for = list-color-display that you got.  I have a
black menu = with white text at the top.  My mode lines are black = with
white.  My normal text is black on white background. =  The *scratch*
butter starts with a "red" messages on = white background.

All of these are muted = slightly... the red is not full on and the
write is very = slightly grey.  But it sounds like your grey is = darker.

My guess is the terminfo on Ubuntu is = not exactly compatible with
Mac's Terminal.app... but that = seems rather unlikely.

My second guess is = Ubuntu has modified emacs in this area but that
also seems = unlikely.

I don't know enough about how the = colors and faces all interact or how
to customize them. =  Hopefully someone else on this list will pipe = up.

You might try not using the = daemon approach and, in particular, try
starting without using = your init file.  Perhaps there is something
in there that = is confusing things.

Sorry I can't be more = help.

Perry


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