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Mon, 21 Sep 2020 17:12:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87ft7bmbj9.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.15) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A782F1F.5F68DF09.0020, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=KsozJleN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=63Z2wlQ1NB3xHpgKFKE71g==:117 a=63Z2wlQ1NB3xHpgKFKE71g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=M51BFTxLslgA:10 a=OocQHUDgAAAA:8 a=V6YVcRO7eCuUgCUM1J4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=xUZTl98r3Qw_uB5NK3jt:22 X-Origin-Country: SE X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:188620 Archived-At: 21 sep. 2020 kl. 16.47 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen : > Beeping at me without telling me why is confusing, I think. Well, better than beeping while lying to you I'd say... > The current message is "Containing expression ends prematurely", which > isn't... perfect... but it tells us that it tried to read an > expression but failed, because it reached something that ended the > expression before ... it should? =20 Well put -- you and I, and everyone else friendly with the internal = workings, have to make the effort to stop thinking like Emacs and put = ourselves in the shoes of the User (who doesn't give two hoots for what = happens inside the machine). > Uhm... No, I have no good suggestions, but these new messages aren't > really any clearer than the old one. Here is a long shot. If we think that "End of buffer" is a good message = (I don't really) then what about "End of expression" "End of subexpressions" The standard procedure for a designer who has trouble formulating a = response to the user is to rework the operation so that the response = isn't needed, but we can't really do that. Another strategy is = considering whether a response is necessary at all.