From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kelly Dean Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright issue Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 19:57:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420834028 30432 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2015 20:07:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: assign@gnu.org, 19479@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 09 21:07:01 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpi-0005lv-NH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 21:06:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52038 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fph-0007Z6-Ta for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:06:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpT-0007YK-Nv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:06:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpS-00069y-Qh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:06:43 -0500 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::197]:41712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpN-00069V-SY; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:06:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.138]) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054AC41C079; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:06:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter9-d.gandi.net X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Header field occurs more than once: "Cc" occurs 3 times Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]) by mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hXygcAqZ34Wu; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:06:34 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 66.220.3.179 Original-Received: from localhost (gm179.geneticmail.com [66.220.3.179]) (Authenticated sender: kelly@prtime.org) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10BB941C073; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:06:32 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4b98:c:538::197 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181109 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> 1. My code is PD. (In case the FSF disputes this fact, I'm attaching >> a signed document to establish it.) > > It can't be PD. You're simply confused about it. It will only be PD 7= 5 > years after your death (or something like that). Until then, all you > can do is sign paperworks, and currently for Emacs contributions we > require this paperwork to be a copyright assignment rather than > a disclaimer. GNU's own website says it can be PD. The documents at the three links I s= ent you start with: =E2=8C=9CI'd like to ask you to sign a disclaimer for the manual, thus pu= tting it in the public domain.=E2=8C=9D =E2=8C=9CI'd like to ask you to sign a disclaimer for the program, thus p= utting it in the public domain.=E2=8C=9D =E2=8C=9CI'd like to ask you to sign a disclaimer for your changes, thus = putting them in the public domain.=E2=8C=9D Notice the =E2=8C=9Cthus putting them in the public domain=E2=8C=9D. Also, do you claim that SQLite is not PD? The author, Richard Hipp, says = it's PD, and the many millions of users of SQLite, including many major c= ompanies with lots of copyright lawyers, accept the legal fact that it's = PD. And Richard Hipp is not dead. Also, do you claim that feedmail.el is not PD? The first lines of it are: ;;; feedmail.el --- assist other email packages to massage outgoing messa= ges ;;; This file is in the public domain. ;; This file is part of GNU Emacs.