From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Is OpenUsability something for Emacs? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:35:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87pseu6v8w.fsf@furball.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156175079 2324 80.91.229.2 (21 Aug 2006 15:44:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 21 17:44:34 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFBoD-0006YD-TM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:35:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFBoD-0005v4-7N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFBnz-0005sd-Gm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFBnw-0005po-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFBnw-0005pb-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GFBvL-0004Q8-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:42:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (rgmgw2.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.111]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k7LFZ6mX004839 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:35:06 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id k7LFZ5Mj024221 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:35:06 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <87pseu6v8w.fsf@furball.mit.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58645 Archived-At: > RS> One can't expect users to know about that command. In order for > RS> that to be the solution to the no-mouse problem, something on the > RS> screen needs to say how to use it. > > Usability is about using things, not about learning to use > things. Would you like to have every possible Emacs keybinding shown > on the screen? When you start up Emacs, it does display some basic keybindings, and tells you how to get help. Perhaps also let the start-up screen explictly mention `C-h b'? E.g., `C-h b' shows you all available key bindings in any buffer.