From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: add a mode-line menu to menu-bar? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:22:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20061107105201.9E39.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162913106 17586 80.91.229.2 (7 Nov 2006 15:25:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 07 16:25:02 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSoi-0007jv-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSoh-00059O-Gu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:24:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSoV-00058L-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:24:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSoT-00056h-Et for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:24:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSoT-00056O-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:24:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhSoS-0002nH-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:24:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id kA7C3fOi002957; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:24:11 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-whq-csvpn-gw3-141-144-81-122.vpn.oracle.com by rcsmt251.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2177040481162912960; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:22:40 -0700 Original-To: "Slawomir Nowaczyk" , "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20061107105201.9E39.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:61908 Archived-At: > #> For consideration after the release - > #>=20 > #> There is now a lot of stuff going on in the mode-line. How=20 > #> about adding a > #> menu for all of that stuff to the menu-bar? This menu would not = replace > #> mode-line clicking, but it would be an alternative, much as the = Minibuf > #> menu-bar menu is an alternative. > #>=20 > #> Some of the mode-line functionality is not too obvious (different = mouse > #> buttons on different parts of the mode-line). A menu for all=20 > #> of it could > #> also act as a learning aid (e.g. by showing the mode-line key=20 > #> sequences). >=20 > In general, I think it would be useful... I, for one, really have no > idea what different mouse buttons in different places can do. >=20 > Having a place where the functionality is explained and easily = available > would be good. FYI - tooltips do provide some help on mode-line mouse actions, as does = `C-h a mode-line'. There are also other reasons to add such a menu, including keyboard = access via tmm. However, RMS has already decided against this.