From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Move etc/future-bug into etc/JOKES ?? Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:56:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172789854 20533 80.91.229.12 (1 Mar 2007 22:57:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:57:34 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 01 23:57:27 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HMuDD-0000eU-QL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:57:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMuDD-0002M5-FS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:57:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMuD1-0002Lh-Tw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:57:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMuD0-0002JD-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:57:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMuD0-0002JA-8o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HMuCz-00087s-PZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (rgmgw3.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.112]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id l21Mv5fR018323 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:57:05 -0700 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l21Mv5Df029069 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:57:05 -0700 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-179.us.oracle.com by rcsmt251.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2490520111172789787; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:56:27 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:67170 Archived-At: > > ... is not the same as providing help about Emacs. > > the C-h prefix is used as short-cuts to view the files in etc/, so > it is not that far off... Presumably, that is because that info is thought to help users use Emacs. In any case, the line needs to be drawn somewhere. I would draw it by calling for a case-by-case judgement whether a candidate feature provides user help or not. In this case, I'd say no. If C-h gets diluted too much, it won't stand for "help" - that's what I'd like to avoid. That there might already be some dilution of focus is not a good argument for further dilution. My second argument was to be conservative about binding stuff to C-h, in order to reserve slots for the future. Others might feel differently, of course.