From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: A wish, a plea Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:17:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <854pkyfbro.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182647971 7396 80.91.229.12 (24 Jun 2007 01:19:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "David Kastrup" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 24 03:19:30 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I2GlE-0004x9-IO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 03:19:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2GlE-0001BT-0T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:19:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2GlA-0001BO-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2Gl7-0001An-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:19:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2Gl7-0001AT-BL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:19:21 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I2Gl4-0006ui-Dg; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l5O1JF0j009270; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:19:15 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l5O1JEra002583; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 19:19:14 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-65-7.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2982734521182647888; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:18:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <854pkyfbro.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73735 Archived-At: > >> > I use a `kill-emacs-query-functions' y-or-n-p confirmation: > >> > >> confirm-kill-emacs is a variable defined in `files.el' > > > > You're right. Thanks, I forgot about that option. (I use Emacs > > 20 most of the time - no such option.) > > Considering the amount of proposals you make for Emacs 22+, maybe you > should actually use a more recent Emacs regularly: it might help > focusing on relevant issues. Maybe you shouldn't worry about what I choose to use, and judge my contributions on their technical merits. Maybe you should provide concrete arguments to back up your insinuation that I need help focusing on relevant issues. FYI, my contributions to this thread were 100% relevant, regardless of my having forgotten about that user option: 1. I proposed a new `visit-on-startup' option for startup, which covers all of the behaviors discussed so far. I proposed that the default value be `~/'. 2. I mentioned that a better solution (than bindings such as `C-x C-c C-x') to the accidental exit problem is to use a confirmation message for `save-buffers-kill-emacs'. How to implement that solution is secondary to the discussion. I use an implementation that works on multiple Emacs versions because I use multiple versions and I write code for multiple versions. Emacs 22+ can use `confirm-kill-emacs'. Maybe _you_ should focus on relevant issues instead of caustic, unsolicited personal advice. (BTW, it's "number" of proposals, not "amount" of proposals.)