From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [drew.adams@oracle.com: Customizevaluemenudoesn'trecognizemouse-2] Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:16:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1154535498 28575 80.91.229.2 (2 Aug 2006 16:18:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 02 18:18:15 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8JQA-0001eR-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:18:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8JQ9-0000nQ-BB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G8JPL-00006A-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:17:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G8JPH-0008Vi-Uw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G8JPH-0008VX-IX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.113.118] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1G8JSQ-0001Zs-H2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:20:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsmt250.oracle.com (rcsmt250.oracle.com [148.87.90.195]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id k723Iwmv009933 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:17:13 -0600 Original-Received: from dradams-lap.us.oracle.com by rcsmt251.oracle.com with ESMTP id 1684003091154535390; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:16:30 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58009 Archived-At: Because on the menu bar, mouse-2 doesn't activate the menu on MS-Windows (and with some X toolkits, such as Motif). So, let the inconsistency appear there, where it won't hurt: If mouse-2 cannot open the menu-bar menu, then there is no harm in letting mouse-2 choose an item from the menu (if opened by mouse-1). In that case, the inconsistency 1) allows more functionality, not less, and 2) will not arise, in practice, because the inability occurs in the initiating action, _opening_ the menu, not in the followup action, choosing from it. IOW, it is better to 1) have mouse-2 be unable to open the (menu-bar) menu (even if it lets you select from it, once opened) than to 2) let mouse-2 open the (Customize value) menu but then not let you select from it. Users will fall into a trap with #2, but not with #1.