From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: display.texi: (,) isn't documented. Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:30:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181230362 3584 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2007 15:32:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:32:42 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 07 17:32:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HwJyV-0004Sg-FE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:32:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwJyU-00077q-VO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:32:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwJyS-00077l-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:32:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwJyP-00076z-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:32:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwJyP-00076w-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HwJyP-0002xS-EO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l57FWONn023568 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:32:25 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l57FLUaf006046 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:32:23 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-179.us.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2834140311181230241; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:30:41 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72415 Archived-At: > > column only - 67x > > line only - 234y > > line & column - 67x234y > > It's abnormal to put the column first (for example compiler error > messages), so this would be confusing. We could certainly decide on either order, but I cannot imagine that 234y67x is more universal or less "abnormal" than 67x234y. The main point is that either order would be clear (i.e. would not "be confusing"), because of the explicit dimension indicators `x' and `y'. The same is not true of the other suggestions (except for `C' and `L'). What's the connection with compiler error messages? This is interactive feedback about cursor position in a buffer. In compiler output, you are primarily (as in first) interested in the line number. That's not the case here - you might be interested in either or both. Yes, it would be "abnormal" for compiler messages to list the column number first. I don't see why that's pertinent here.