From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: cua-mode and the tutorial Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:55:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156874198 21895 80.91.229.2 (29 Aug 2006 17:56:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 29 19:56:35 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7oP-0001ac-Lm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:55:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7oP-0006aH-AB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:55:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7oF-0006aC-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7oA-0006WZ-G0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:55:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GI7oA-0006WW-Br for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:55:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GI7xO-0007lJ-0c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (rgmgw2.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.111]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k7THtSC5008382 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:55:28 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-whq-csvpn-gw3-141-144-82-236.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.82.236]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id k7THtRxQ001838 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:55:28 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59072 Archived-At: I haven't been following this closely, so, please, no flames if I'm off the mark or if this has already been suggested. Would this be a good approach? 1. Mention in the Emacs tutorial that it applies to the standard (default) key bindings. 2. Perhaps detect non-standard bindings, and draw attention to #1 with an explicit message. 3. Perhaps point out again, in specific sections, that the bindings used there are the standard ones. Perhaps mention the corresponding commands by name, so users can nevertheless try them (if appropriate). 4. Provide a separate tutorial for CUA, which complements the Emacs tutorial and covers the parts of the Emacs tutorial that don't make sense for CUA. IOW: 1. Not try to make the Emacs tutorial work for CUA mode and such, but have it at least point out that it is not for CUA mode. 2. Have CUA mode be responsible for teaching CUA mode. Again, I didn't follow the thread, and I'm not very familiar with CUA mode. If this suggestion helps, fine; if not, ignore it.