From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: defcustom and the stars. Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:01:01 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167958965 12443 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2007 01:02:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 01:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 05 02:02:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H2dTm-000827-Kp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:02:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H2dTl-0000NR-EI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:02:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H2dSg-000812-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:01:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H2dSc-0007wE-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:01:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H2dSb-0007vv-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1H2dSb-0006Mc-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:01:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (rgmgw3.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.112]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l0511Qj4004487 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:01:26 -0600 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l04JIkdi022316 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:01:25 -0700 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-179.us.oracle.com by rcsmt251.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2336624421167958868; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:01:08 -0700 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64803 Archived-At: > > I support stripping it from what is shown to the user. >=20 > That's what Micha=C3=ABl proposed, and I agreed. I probably just misunderstood. =20 > > I thought this was about "fixing" defcustom doc strings that > > didn't need an initial `*' by removing it definitively, not > > just for display. >=20 > Not programmatically, no; though Micha=C3=ABl also talked about = removing > them definitely (and slowly: remember the needles) from defcustoms, > *by hand*. I agree with removing them from defcustoms (but not defvars) by hand, = progressively. I must have misunderstood. > > I also agree that `describe-variable' should indicate that an > > option is an option. I think I said that. I support that change. >=20 > Let's try to remember revisiting the issue after the release.