From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: tip of the day? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:37:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1152740315 31758 80.91.229.2 (12 Jul 2006 21:38:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 12 23:38:32 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0mPI-00049h-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:38:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0mPH-0005bL-Pi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:38:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G0mOw-0005RQ-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G0mOt-0005PL-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:37:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0mOt-0005PF-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.113.118] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1G0mQV-0003xn-Mw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:39:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.49]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id k6CLbeNw031306 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:37:40 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id k6CLbdcv012139 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:37:40 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56960 Archived-At: I like the idea. Now and then I stumble upon things I did not know existed in Emacs, often while looking for something completely different. Just opening up a random manual page could prove to be quite useful. The suggestion, as I understood it, was to present randomly selected tips. I took this to mean short hints that people would write for this specific purpose. Randomly selecting a spot in the manual would be a totally different feature. If some people find that useful, I have nothing against it, but please don't consider the two ideas interchangeable. Tips would be good for helping beginners become intermediate users. Randomly selecting parts of the manual could be interesting for more knowledgeable users, but would not help beginners. I think the tips would be more useful than the random manual text presenter. But we could have both. Actually, I did suggest both (as in X or perhaps Y). I agree that either might be helpful, and yes, they are different. Short tips written specifically for this purpose could also include - when appropriate - one or more links to the manual(s), for possible followup.