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Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add function to rotate/transpose all windows Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:05:19 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87setpdv21.fsf@gmail.com> <878qt8spp2.fsf@gmail.com> <0ce35c7a-8b28-4905-a6ab-caf50f2fc750@gmx.at> <87mshl2i6h.fsf@gmail.com> <9b460366-f34e-48f6-a680-e7fa5bc7f598@gmx.at> <87bjy03fql.fsf@gmail.com> <356d63bc-818c-428c-b31b-a0eb227b3a8a@gmx.at> <87o720gjst.fsf@gmail.com> <7dfe87a0-b367-47df-86df-f8fd95163fd6@gmx.at> <8734jbz8sb.fsf@gmail.com> <50ab6c0a-6afb-4727-9094-178668fc4f4e@gmx.at> <87zflfc3cd.fsf@gmail.com> <87y10ycxv6.fsf@gmail.com> <87mshbiiee.fsf@bauherren.ovh> <30c31060-6be4-4dab-8e49-c6f543821ea5@gmx.at> <87y10ecxk9.fsf@bauherren.ovh> <787e1cf0-810c-4eea-8d89-03ee83f67807@gmx.at> <87ikr97u86.fsf@bauherren.ovh> <87msglr2zx.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86frmd2q71.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Pranshu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31907"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 25 04:21:44 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tQHxu-00085P-Du for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 04:21:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQHx3-0008U2-Je; Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:20:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQDxw-0002vT-PM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Dec 2024 18:05:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.bauherren.ovh ([45.32.179.127]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQDxu-0004QJ-N1; Tue, 24 Dec 2024 18:05:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bauherren.ovh; s=mail; t=1735081523; bh=e1Ls2cXSscS2HFBeQ2l0cfKJ/lKqfm6MjwCVPXFHgcE=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=k1FaB9sepD+zWXe2npqEgirnlZ1kXWQGstWZ4+8LGHpEXgj2Yw95Ms+9lNKuwTi9r JliKG9VbA5iBQO44M8s2QnijixsI1oQnMKULCivwVOQO0WuHaJdKFM5ZxaaQFW2MPR /AYC8k8Xgx4i/Nyy38cN3K3QKu5K1SOaHiypnAWXn4aD5C9I7lHW1j1VxKBhEa3nvz iILZ/3xstsH4O8YQoIkWukrKVudVzyjXaFuQgYTGVoXr9sjXuEIBLduVqf72qUCdMe y/ptykVC+jqWfkNg9Snv29V6AKJGaSXhJR1QmivudITN1yicsYz6GdYJoo8km7KnQj IRV7j6AMmyQ+g== In-Reply-To: <86frmd2q71.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.32.179.127; envelope-from=pranshu@bauherren.ovh; helo=mail.bauherren.ovh X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FROM_FMBLA_NEWDOM28=0.799, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:20:46 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327047 Archived-At: On 24 December 2024 8:58:10=E2=80=AFpm GMT+08:00, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Juri Linkov >> Cc: martin rudalics , "eliz@gnu=2Eorg" , >> emacs-devel >> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 09:07:46 +0200 >>=20 >> > So the function names and file is now decided(Eli, do yo agree so >> > far?), we just need to finalise the bindings=2E >> > >> > Are you all fine with: >> > >> > - rotate-window-layout-clockwise: C-x w r >> > - rotate-window-layout-anticlockwise: C-x w C-r >> > - flip-window-layout-horizontally: Option 1: "C-x w h" >> > Option 2: "C-x w f" >> > - flip-window-layout-vertically: Option 1: "C-x w v" >> > Option 2: "C-x w C-f" >> > (Maybe we could use C-f for horizontal flip, depending on which one w= ill >> > be used more) >> > - rotate-windows: None, for now >> > - rotate-windows-back >>=20 >> None for rotate-windows? What about using the prefix >> 'C-x w l' for layout commands? Then: >>=20 >> - rotate-window-layout-clockwise: C-x w l r >> - rotate-window-layout-anticlockwise: M-- C-x w l r (with negative argu= ment) >> - flip-window-layout-horizontally: C-x w l h >> - flip-window-layout-vertically: C-x w l v >> - rotate-windows: C-x w r >> - rotate-windows-back: M-- C-x w r (with negative argume= nt) > >Why are we allocating key bindings to commands before they are enough >time in use to know whether they will be used frequently enough to >justify a default binding? There's nothing wrong with a command which >has no bindings, there are gobs of them in Emacs=2E how will we know if or not a binding is used frequently? IMO binding comm= ands makes it more discoverable, and a specific window prefix map exists so= lely for this purpose=2E=20 >Let's not rush into reserving key bindings we are not sure will be >needed, because it will be nigh impossible to change or remove them later= =2E I didn't know situation was that bad, maybe someday I will read M-g change= mailing list just for entertainment=2E