From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:04:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <28c656e20901041028m522f3e0eva3a6b9918ddd035d@mail.gmail.com> <62131EE9-6999-42CA-A9E6-F53B41768586@Web.DE> <28c656e20901041422l5d9d7132wb67771ba5f516de1@mail.gmail.com> <6821EA4D-AA06-465A-9A59-E134E992C5F1@web.de> <28c656e20901050331r5bb72a4aqebe64c1837951a9@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231164318 14857 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2009 14:05:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: B Smith-Mannschott Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 15:06:29 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJq5q-0001u3-Ce for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:06:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45802 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJq4b-0005Gm-3t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:04:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJq4J-0005Ga-Do for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:04:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJq4H-0005G4-5d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:04:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53929 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJq4G-0005G1-VR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:04:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]:53587) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJq4G-0004Et-0w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:04:32 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3442F6382F9; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:04:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [91.35.232.123] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.110 #273) id 1LJq4C-0005Li-00; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:04:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <28c656e20901050331r5bb72a4aqebe64c1837951a9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18F45gai4nFndsIAtTF3qiwwilx273Uy6KFGada 6d7HB55h0a+7oumlFCWnLkm7BYcJUa6hadupWMxPjJuUmHX+n1 EKbYfiK0PahfVACNORZg== X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:61080 Archived-At: Am 05.01.2009 um 12:31 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott: > In summary, you seem to be making two assertions: > > (1) running ( ./configure --with-ns ; make ; make install ) is not the > same as running ( ./configure --with-ns ; make bootstrap ; make ; > make install ) Actually I think ./configure ...; make bootstrap; (sudo) make install is OK. > > Normally (on a Mac), one would expect the default font set through the > *Application-Wide* Preferences window to be, well, an application-wide > default and not per-frame setting. So really, this button in "Emacs > Preferences" is just a really clumbsy way of executing "Options >> Set > Default Font...". Is that sensible? Probably. It's meant as a workaround. Besides, in GNU Emacs 23.0.60, you can give every frame another font. And when you load a buffer from frame A in frame B this window (prove it by creating a second window in frame B) will habe frame A's font. Or fontset. > > (2.2) set-default-font > Offers no completions for setting the default font. > > C-h f, however reveals that: This function is obsolete since 23.1; use > set-frame-font instead. I had not previously noticed this. My bad. > > set-frame-font: Offers no completions. Is the user meant to guess? Seems to be a sign of missing adaptation to Cocoa. I don't use this, I prefer the font panel. You can report it as a bug. > > (2.3) M-x set-face-font > Offers only three possible completions, just as described in the > initial posting on this thread. > > -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default > -apple-Monaco-medium-normal-normal-Regular-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset- > startup > -ns-*-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard These are the built-in defaults. Again, there is a link missing to Cocoa. You can report it as the same bug. -- Greetings Pete Increase the size of your bike by at least *five* inches!