From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 23 Mac port Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 11:58:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2282B3B4-D844-4E26-BB94-9F79EEA2E847@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273092153 14555 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2010 20:42:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs-Devel devel , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 05 22:42:31 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9lQJ-0004Yv-0A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 22:42:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32901 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O9lQH-0005SF-8u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 16:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O9h16-0001Ac-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 12:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38732 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O9h10-0000re-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 12:00:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9gzT-0007x5-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 11:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f177.google.com ([209.85.221.177]:45345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O9gzT-0007wt-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 May 2010 11:58:27 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so17814qyk.7 for ; Wed, 05 May 2010 08:58:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=Jnc+gkEUpeQif1bVAaB6iOGHRev3eCLrgkBFtWp5bnQ=; b=s94TBAN+S6qQQqVOoA4EkGcQIEGIx5x9g1N8yMPTlsxsmBWe0nJZfw9OKoMBFSiRYh hReRj6T+egJ5Z5ss/mahjA3aRaYLs0j9+wjzT8W66FqgyyLK8W/3bHMlH3VECdihGNk7 vXzSWOgdh84WTTR5RtlENRYAKWBxgG6QofKCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=M2R+qoxwxR884dPcYQ68bxVR6XLwXeYC5k0UvGzgNtQgFKm2ScfU3Ii3ameiL7mHiA Ph57ach4c5MICeDU4tLNt1A1nbtC6O7Du8bHSK6l9azOlY0ZDWWloA+qFr30TJRsBRoH XgLSfenD14k5fyPnt/U9az8c+USj6MZNxJUlY= Original-Received: by 10.224.27.152 with SMTP id i24mr5822461qac.83.1273075106437; Wed, 05 May 2010 08:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from scarlett.psy.cmu.edu ([128.2.249.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11sm2156923qco.16.2010.05.05.08.58.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 May 2010 08:58:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124548 Archived-At: On May 3, 2010, at 10:35 PM, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > The twelfth update of the Mac port, which is = experimental/hackers-only, It would be nice to merge the improvements from this port into the NS = port so that a larger group of users will eventually benefit from it. Debugging something else, I came across a statement with substantial = foresight from you in 2005: > As for Emacs 23, the Carbon port itself might become such that "it's > difficult to understand why it should be supported". =46rom the = users' > point of view, it would be confusing to have two ports of Emacs that > are the same version and have similar look-and-feel, provided that > both of them are sufficiently stable and functional. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-09/msg00773.html=