From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Theodor Thornhill Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please stop this Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:36:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <89E84E10-9D6A-45A7-B0F1-02ADCB5CAE30@gmail.com> <87y24dtprz.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <8735mlrytl.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9945"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Vitaly Ankh , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu , Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 07:40:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mzvJ4-0002Ni-C7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:40:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55972 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzvJ1-0007kD-Mh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:40:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56644) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzvEc-0006rg-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:36:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:41d0:2:863f::] (port=48916 helo=out1.migadu.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzvEa-0002XE-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:36:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thornhill.no; s=key1; t=1640154977; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=NEgH+uSqofabnDYOLh3C0nkThhwrY3OKrKF1BEBICAg=; b=gBTg6NbEUguI5wO+KBX7szzApuZWa1QIbvVZroBJYcOKTfC8jtH/yqQadFU7BSdEaQXErj 6LrH52WcS4GpBMVSNl4MwCBK+nc70Qm6aUxISlfh2/bXYmB8g/maYJyuauaJoDiNNcEoLq Avb9BFIQ4K6o7/WpwwUQ2XOq/COpgskfZ7qYs3u6BkVohODuhagrvrpr5EdC3unq2iZyko jUCcDAGLX6GXcZ9zFhV6beEJLCOt1W0twAEkR+6eSUL5nBjOHfO5zqPDm/hxK50besbPSs w+ZWryXEDjhqFcs+uzshXWnTKl+3u6ctg6G+1uJ7Tefgy/xkRfLLR6qI3OUHXA== X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282685 Archived-At: On 22 December 2021 06:30:30 CET, Po Lu wrote: >Stefan Kangas writes: > >> That will not happen, as I'm sure you must understand=2E It would be >> completely counter-productive, and only serve to harm and obstruct >> important ongoing work=2E >> >> Moreover, I don't understand how Emacs would ever be successful if the >> reply to volunteers coming here hoping to help should be "we discussed >> this N months ago, go away"=2E Luckily, our policy is not that, but to >> encourage and help them contribute in the most useful way=2E > >AFAICS, discussions about this topic tend to turn into a big runaway >flamefest, usually starting from simple questions such as "what's >missing"=2E This happens every single time someone posts something like >this and the amount of information gets repeated is frightening, so I >hope these discussions will crop up less often than every two or so >months=2E Not that I'm opposed to healthy discussion, but the usual >result of this topic is not that=2E > >Just my two cents though, so feel free to disregard that=2E > >> Yes, something very significant has changed=2E Two people have now agr= eed >> to start working on this=2E > >Good to hear=2E > >> If you don't want to see this topic may I recommend using an email >> client that allows you to filter threads you are not interested in? > >I already have such topics split to a separate group in Gnus, but >unfortunately the subject line regexp didn't match on "SourceHut", like >last time when it only matched on "migrate" and not "migration"=2E > >Thanks=2E Well, apologies if you feel I waste your time=2E I have no interest in par= ticipating in such a "flame fest", as I feel I have not done before=2E=20 Theo=20