* bug#1478: 23.0.60; doc string of custom-unlispify-*
@ 2008-12-03 0:00 Drew Adams
2011-07-10 12:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-10 17:13 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2008-12-03 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug
1. The doc string of `custom-unlispify-menu-entries' says only this:
"Display menu entries as words instead of symbols if non-nil."
What menu entries? Which menu?
It took me a while, searching and experimenting, to find that this is
about the `Custom' menu's submenus. Please clarify what this is for in
the doc string.
2. The doc string of `custom-unlispify-tag-names' says only this:
"Display tag names as words instead of symbols if non-nil."
What's a tag name? This won't make much sense to an Emacs user who isn't savvy
to Emacs Lisp, `defcustom' :type, and :tag. Please explain this
better. A simple illustrative example never hurts: show what happens if
it's nil vs if it's non-nil.
These doc strings are all the user has to go on, since these options are not
described in any manual.
In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2008-11-24 on LENNART-69DE564
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include
-fno-crossjumping'
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* bug#1478: 23.0.60; doc string of custom-unlispify-*
2008-12-03 0:00 bug#1478: 23.0.60; doc string of custom-unlispify-* Drew Adams
@ 2011-07-10 12:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-10 17:13 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-10 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 1478
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 1. The doc string of `custom-unlispify-menu-entries' says only this:
>
> "Display menu entries as words instead of symbols if non-nil."
>
> What menu entries? Which menu?
>
> It took me a while, searching and experimenting, to find that this is
> about the `Custom' menu's submenus. Please clarify what this is for in
> the doc string.
I disagree. The grouping is `custom-menu', so what else could it be
referring to? This would be like if all dired variables and commands
had doc strings starting with "In Dired...".
> 2. The doc string of `custom-unlispify-tag-names' says only this:
>
> "Display tag names as words instead of symbols if non-nil."
>
> What's a tag name? This won't make much sense to an Emacs user who isn't savvy
> to Emacs Lisp, `defcustom' :type, and :tag. Please explain this
> better. A simple illustrative example never hurts: show what happens if
> it's nil vs if it's non-nil.
This is for (very special) people who want to customize the Customize
low-level thingamabobs. I think they probably know what a tag is, if
they want to change it.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* bug#1478: 23.0.60; doc string of custom-unlispify-*
2008-12-03 0:00 bug#1478: 23.0.60; doc string of custom-unlispify-* Drew Adams
2011-07-10 12:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-07-10 17:13 ` Drew Adams
2011-07-10 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2011-08-02 16:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2011-07-10 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 1478, 1478
1. I did not receive Lars's message explaining why he thinks this is not a bug.
Something wrong with the bug tracker? I received a `close' message that said
nothing more than it is closed. I had to go to the web site to see Lars's
message.
2. I disagree with everything Lars wrote about this bug.
a. This is about _doc strings_. It is not about the Customize UI.
b. `custom-unlispify-menu-entries': Please mention in the doc string what menu
is involved, and which menu entries.
c. `custom-unlispify-tag-names': No, this is not only "for (very special) people
who want to Customize low-level thingamabobs."
Just because you might not be interested in understanding this function, do not
assume that someone who wants to understand it intends to customize low-level
Customize thingamabobs.
I, as one user who wants to understand this, and who went to the trouble to file
a detailed bug report about missing info, do not know what is meant by a "tag"
in this context.
I have no intention of changing a tag (esp. since I don't even know what is
being referred to here by that name). But I want to understand this doc
string.
These doc strings are for users. So far, they are not comprehensible.
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* bug#1478: 23.0.60; doc string of custom-unlispify-*
2011-07-10 17:13 ` Drew Adams
@ 2011-07-10 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2011-08-02 16:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2011-07-10 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 1478, 1478
> 1. I did not receive Lars's message explaining why he thinks
> this is not a bug. Something wrong with the bug tracker?
> I received a `close' message that said nothing more than it
> is closed. I had to go to the web site to see Lars's message.
I take back that part. I got the message. Might have been a little problem
because it was being sent to two different bug-tracker addresses - dunno.
The rest of my reply stands, however.
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* bug#1478: 23.0.60; doc string of custom-unlispify-*
2011-07-10 17:13 ` Drew Adams
2011-07-10 17:22 ` Drew Adams
@ 2011-08-02 16:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-08-02 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 1478-close
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 2. I disagree with everything Lars wrote about this bug.
I still agree with myself, so I'm closing this report.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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