From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12908: 24.3.50; file `emacs_backtrace.txt'? Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:02:27 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4B9EFDFEE27E43DBB6331605DD7C2842@us.oracle.com> <83625549o1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353099808 1166 80.91.229.3 (16 Nov 2012 21:03:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 12908@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 16 22:03:38 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT4W-0000LN-Cj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:03:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56049 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT4M-0005dX-BG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:03:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT4H-0005dE-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:03:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT4E-0000li-9M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:03:17 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT4E-0000lb-5r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:03:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT50-0004iB-7t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12908 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12908-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12908.135309980518068 (code B ref 12908); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12908) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2012 21:03:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49307 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT4O-0004hM-AP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:03:25 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28142) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZT4M-0004hE-J5 for 12908@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:03:23 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qAGL2Wex011648 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:02:33 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAGL2War025904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:02:32 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt108.oracle.com (abhmt108.oracle.com [141.146.116.60]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAGL2VS2017900; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:02:31 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.229.77) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:02:31 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <83625549o1.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac3EMomgpzGrR0tZShqxUUESx5Y65gACqIGg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67028 Archived-At: > > And I'm thinking that the default location should perhaps > > be somewhere under .emacs.d, perhaps with the dir that is > > currently used as the default recorded somehow. > > This is dangerous, because accessing the home directory may involve > Lisp evaluation, e.g. if that directory is remote. This facility must > be as simple and close to the bare metal as possible, or else it will > be more trouble than help. Then put it under the Emacs installation directory. The point is to get it away from user files. Please use your imagination. If there are good reasons why you cannot easily put it here or there, then try somewhere else - but aim for somewhere that does not interfere with user data. A users looking in her folder of recipes should not find an Emacs debugging file. That should be a no-brainer, at least in terms of goal.