From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:32:46 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87h7xe79l7.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xdbne4.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lfmput2r.fsf@pm.me> <878siorvl7.fsf@yahoo.com> <673E6311-3192-46B9-A058-171550B4F558@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="106106"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , ndame , theothornhill@pm.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 25 05:33:34 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBZO-000RV5-2E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 05:33:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57508 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBZN-0000kh-3r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:33:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38724) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBYj-00081J-Sf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:32:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBYj-0004cz-AK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:32:53 -0400 Original-Received: from pv50p00im-ztdg10011901.me.com ([17.58.6.50]:41890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBYi-0004aY-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:32:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=1a1hai; t=1587785570; bh=A8KeBztmDuYEdI9eR4Yy5Qp7AJuh+zBe+ov+soGn1lg=; h=Content-Type:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=FAh0XO4BSG1ZZ+G3GgyU0W07jqhnlG3t09bG1l++zqnOLsYQkp8X95DQySHa1wjWX 1olalMx2zNW2bl5GvE3Qumx+VeZwijTARPkurddcbCUnU2bxfnOTfKOIprM+6LOcv5 jmEVC5k0j3mdR088LvdqqkG/K1Yie30lhL9PRnDLxzoUapkxuTwVraFm+/mVS0Es2s TU582sok6uQn3qhfv873H/z21vy7Z7l2lpQYBwi5XFDoT3oUE4hUtMws476fNugf66 qwWpX6pD0mGzKAnquclaYOrepY1KNdCX1Jrvg8qZZEOs9zLAA8qHxc8e6FOHIks3n8 LDvOlgc6W98cQ== Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [1.230.108.64]) by pv50p00im-ztdg10011901.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88953800931; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:32:49 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.138, 18.0.676 definitions=2020-04-24_13:2020-04-24, 2020-04-24 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=21 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=21 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=21 mlxlogscore=56 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2002250000 definitions=main-2004250028 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=17.58.6.50; envelope-from=pcr910303@icloud.com; helo=pv50p00im-ztdg10011901.me.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/24 23:32:51 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Received-From: 17.58.6.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247740 Archived-At: Richard Stallman 작성: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >>> What kind of thing is tsserver? The word "server" has multiple meanings; >>> in what sense is tsserver a "server"? > >>> Would it run on the same machine you are editing on, or another machine? > >> It usually runs on the same machine that the codebase exists. > > Other than in the case where that machine exists for the same project > that you're contributing to, this would be SaaSS. The codebase is usually (almost always) on local. > See https://gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html > for an explanation of SaaSS and why we should not tolerate it. > > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)