From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Andrus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs seems awfully unstable on OS X lately Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:37:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20120914.092513.1021878789502755268.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347611887 12337 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2012 08:38:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Harald Hanche-Olsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 10:38:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCRPa-0006pi-TV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:38:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59889 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCRPX-0007vu-3T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49863) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCRPP-0007vi-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCRPN-0005sI-Es for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:37:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:39796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCRPN-0005s6-7n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so931865bkc.0 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:37:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=+tgO5fyhjPVqygeIjKkiua8gz/DTx/gU+q+j73+Zf5Q=; b=AOu0EXhmoAYZ75D7tRFLykZ4NAyzJTrsRrLbf5n8UAjWHiG0+VGnilksjWybJ6jujC 7++9JqalkN0d1YDqVwmkwK37V7QGKC507f5q1yJyZW46og2VpUMj7mHbgY/zLXm+HtlO 0vWRWooANp9Ll8lG90DxJwSrB+pZmiPd5d9RChf+k4eWmFWyteMlo+jjuM6UNiFosq5I k9LMs810/GuvoD7crzOjB+D9KREvFnYxdj7bzp01GUzwJQ+o1j+N0gxt+tIV4nj/0yQt GIj/a7fyC3rpITjkLwaP9+Kobb0xSc7pPOl52gw8nPNe2cdIwutaPOZeedjDNfKAisgO OX0w== Original-Received: by 10.204.147.1 with SMTP id j1mr640064bkv.110.1347611871802; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.2.25] (catv-80-99-177-93.catv.broadband.hu. [80.99.177.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ht18sm371129bkc.16.2012.09.14.01.37.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:37:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120914.092513.1021878789502755268.hanche@math.ntnu.no> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153293 Archived-At: On Sep 14, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: > Do other OS X users experience stability problems on OS X with recent > builds from trunk? Yes. I've been using the Mac Port for the past week or so because of = it. I plan to run it under gdb and see if I can track it down, but I = haven't had time yet. I'm not sure when I will. =20 > I built an emacs from current trunk on September 6. It had a tendency > to get stuck in garbage collection and needing to be killed, > especially when I tried sending emails with large-ish attachments (on > the order of a megabyte or two). >=20 > So I built a new one yesterday. It is even more unstable, just > crashing randomly in the main event loop. I see that here too. > So for the time being, I have reverted to a version that I build in > late July, which seems stable enough. If you can bisect that would probably be helpful. > I am not sure that I have enough data to send a meaningful bug report. > Are the OS provided crash logs useful? I have read somewhere that gdb > doesn't work with the output of the current crop of Apple's compilers, > so I haven't even tried using that. I'm on 10.6, but gdb seems to work fine for me. > I'll try to gather more information on these crashes if needed, but > then I could use some tips on how to do it. But if others are seeing > these crashes and are actively working on fixing them, I'll just wait. I certainly wouldn't wait for me to fix it. :-) -Ivan=