From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" <lekktu@gmail.com>,
"'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 'Emacs developers' <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r100650: Changedefault-frame-alist and menu/tool-bar-mode interaction (Bug#2249).
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:30:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E81E61777B7F440E966E604B927909EE@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CBFADEF54CB74694A78BAB69629CD0FA@us.oracle.com>
> From: Drew Adams Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:07 AM
> >
> > Change default-frame-alist and menu/tool-bar-mode
> > interaction (Bug#2249). Don't add entries for `menu-bar-lines'
> > and `tool-bar-lines' to `default-frame-alist' and
> > `initial-frame-alist' at startup. Instead, use X resources
> > to update the `menu-bar-mode' and `tool-bar-mode' variables
> > at startup, and use them as defaults during frame creation.
>
> I haven't followed this and cannot check the new effect. But
> I hope this does not mean that a user's customizations of, say,
> `default-frame-alist' will no longer be respected wrt
> `menu-bar-lines' and `tool-bar-lines'.
>
> When you say "use X resources", do you mean that Emacs now
> sets X resources or only that users can use X resources to set
> these parameters? (You say "use X resources" the same way you
> say "don't add entries", so it's unclear what the
> subject of the sentence is: Emacs code or the user.)
>
> ---
>
> FWIW: Over the past few major releases there has been
> considerable fiddling with initial menu-bar and tool-bar
> settings and how they're established. I hope this
> will settle down and reach a fixed point. ;-) As an example,
> I have code that fits the frame to a buffer, and it has to
> calculate the frame height differently for different Emacs
> versions, because of the different treatment of these
> parameters.
See my mail from today, subject "tool bars - broken again".
I suspect that the change Yidong describes is in fact what broke things.
[The breakage is not what I feared it might be (size of tool-bar lines or
non-respect of `default-frames-alist'). Instead, it seems that turning off
`tool-bar-mode' does not set `tool-bar-lines' to 0 for `default-frame-alist'.]
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2010-06-27 10:39 ` [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r100650: Change default-frame-alist and menu/tool-bar-mode interaction (Bug#2249) Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-27 11:59 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-27 14:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-27 14:43 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-27 15:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-27 18:11 ` Chong Yidong
2010-06-27 14:06 ` Drew Adams
2010-07-03 19:30 ` Drew Adams [this message]
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