Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Will]

Dear all,

if I press C-Mouse-1 the buffer list appears as a drop-down menu at the 
mouse-pointer. However, the justification seems to be messed up and I 
have problems orienting to find the buffer /folder names.

How can I change the justification of the buffer list so ist flushed 
left (like in Emacs menu -> Buffers)? How can I influence the sorting of 
buffer names in that list?

Thanks in advance,

Will

Re: Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 06.12.2007 um 16:00 schrieb Will:

> if I press C-Mouse-1 the buffer list appears as a drop-down menu at  
> the mouse-pointer. However, the justification seems to be messed up  
> and I have problems orienting to find the buffer /folder names.
>
> How can I change the justification of the buffer list so ist  
> flushed left (like in Emacs menu -> Buffers)? How can I influence  
> the sorting of buffer names in that list?


You might check this:  '(mouse-buffer-menu-mode-mult 1). At least you  
can see that what pops up is mouse-buffer-menu related.

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RE: Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Drew Adams]

> > if I press C-Mouse-1 the buffer list appears as a drop-down menu at
> > the mouse-pointer. However, the justification seems to be messed up
> > and I have problems orienting to find the buffer /folder names.
> >
> > How can I change the justification of the buffer list so ist
> > flushed left (like in Emacs menu -> Buffers)? How can I influence
> > the sorting of buffer names in that list?
>
>
> You might check this:  '(mouse-buffer-menu-mode-mult 1). At least you
> can see that what pops up is mouse-buffer-menu related.

Thanks. Never heard of that option. I wonder why 0 or 1 is not the default
value?

BTW, this helps a lot with the organization, but it doesn't really respond
to the OP question about justification and alignment. I agree that the
alignment is not ideal.

Re: Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 06.12.2007 um 18:08 schrieb Drew Adams:

>> You might check this:  '(mouse-buffer-menu-mode-mult 1). At least you
>> can see that what pops up is mouse-buffer-menu related.
>
> Thanks. Never heard of that option. I wonder why 0 or 1 is not the  
> default
> value?

Because it's such an old variable that (almost) every value leads to  
different *documented* behaviour. I think 15 or 20 years ago I found  
1 fine after many tries and then said to myself: that's good enough  
for the remainder of my life. But then I discovered desktop and  
session and now so many buffers are saved between sessions that I  
think I might need to increase or decrease that value of 1 ...

There might be more mouse-buffer-menu stuff and variables.

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Re: Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Jason Rumney]

On 6 Dec, 17:08, "Drew Adams" <drew.ad...@oracle.com> wrote:

> BTW, this helps a lot with the organization, but it doesn't really respond
> to the OP question about justification and alignment. I agree that the
> alignment is not ideal.

The alignment comes from the second nested format call in mouse-buffer-
menu-alist. I think the intention is to align the flags and file name,
but it also results in the buffer names being left padded, losing
their left alignment. This looks completely messed up when the menus
use a variable width font, as nothing ends up aligned.

On Windows, the tab character can be used for alignment within the
menu, xmenu.c seems to use spaces to align the key codes though, so it
probably doesn't work cross-platform.

RE: Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Drew Adams]

> > BTW, this helps a lot with the organization, but it doesn't
> really respond
> > to the OP question about justification and alignment. I agree that the
> > alignment is not ideal.
>
> The alignment comes from the second nested format call in mouse-buffer-
> menu-alist. I think the intention is to align the flags and file name,
> but it also results in the buffer names being left padded, losing
> their left alignment. This looks completely messed up when the menus
> use a variable width font, as nothing ends up aligned.
>
> On Windows, the tab character can be used for alignment within the
> menu, xmenu.c seems to use spaces to align the key codes though, so it
> probably doesn't work cross-platform.

Yes. A variable-width font is what I see on Windows, by default - which is
good, IMO.

I think (so far) that the buffer name should just be flush left, and it
should be followed by a single space before the file name. That is, forget
about trying to align the file names. That is the best solution for a
variable-width font, IMO. Besides, there is no reason to align the file
names: they don't constitute a separate field or whatever here.

Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Will]

Hello,

if I press C-Mouse-1 the buffer list appears as a drop-down menu at the
mouse-pointer. However, the justification seems to be messed up and I
have problems orienting to find the buffer /folder names.

I am using GNU Emacs Version 22.1 with EmacsW32 package under Windows XP.

Please check the thread "Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu" on 
<gnu.emacs.help> starting on 2007-12-06 for further explanations.


Best, Will

Re: Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu

[Jason Rumney]

Will wrote:
> Please check the thread "Emacs - Buffer List - Drop-Down-Menu" on 
> <gnu.emacs.help> starting on 2007-12-06 for further explanations.

Thanks for your report. The menu justification was fixed in response to 
that thread.