From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Maintainers and contributors Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:37:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87si59wj42.fsf@T420.taylan> <87a8ren5ys.fsf@T420.taylan> <56259BB1.3070908@cs.ucla.edu> <878u6ykmvt.fsf@T420.taylan> <87h9llvo98.fsf@members.fsf.org> <5626622A.3090707@yandex.ru> <87zizdijbp.fsf@T420.taylan> <56267302.7050606@yandex.ru> <87io61igyu.fsf@T420.taylan> <56267CDF.6010201@yandex.ru> <87wpuhh15s.fsf@T420.taylan> <562683B9.1060305@yandex.ru> <83y4exe71v.fsf@gnu.org> <87fv13xirw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5628D0D2.4050507@yandex.ru> <87bnbrxewt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d1w7szw2.fsf@gnu.org> <5629341C.8050806@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445557080 23395 80.91.229.3 (22 Oct 2015 23:38:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 23:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Taylan_Ulrich_Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer?= , Eli Zaretskii , David Kastrup , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 01:37:59 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpPQf-0002qU-Uv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 01:37:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35030 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpPQf-0005vr-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53149) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpPQY-0005vZ-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpPQX-0006sj-VE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]:34663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZpPQV-0006qH-CJ; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: by padhk11 with SMTP id hk11so99696862pad.1; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:37:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=OOPwuRza79EHvqfBZ15YrgLhTIG3/8XIFv0IaoSfl9o=; b=pIU48sqfg2uf+FCBdKfIhdnFWcx/XXzPase1Nn+PxOZY/+n39+umMOmhOYYYy1S3Xc R6y5NOZUcAlm8oQWOQp3y3qmNACCKz/Bob0rY7pUg7lHJFjkc1L/KxiR+vmuS6Q6I0Nt iGvqZjrju/0hfkCvaj00Fu0dUzSOI8PDiiHJnLKJr3P88ZfUVI1KGFzxFX1PKiii6+qP Rk7s1r6VUXA69tq+Y/gFgX+oS7hmKLwjt5UHlPmkxkjdvN8XeN8td0A4q/YiWEnxlfs/ z1OhrSAZI0lVzZlOaPhudOGYbgCClng+xKSQFK7t64hM1LFFzbtfe66m2XvyKs9phTP4 g3Sw== X-Received: by 10.68.135.132 with SMTP id ps4mr1382726pbb.74.1445557062718; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?IPv6:2600:1010:b104:689b:286b:a0d5:f52e:feb5? ([2600:1010:b104:689b:286b:a0d5:f52e:feb5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id iy1sm15651401pbb.85.2015.10.22.16.37.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13A452) In-Reply-To: <5629341C.8050806@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192439 Archived-At: > This point and others have been made. Like Eli said in another email, some= people just can't accept different views. I actually think we don't differ that much in our interests. Everyone cares a= bout security to some extent, and everyone wants to do the least work for th= e greatest gain.=20 My point is that we could have done a better job at addressing the underlyin= g concern, rather than the line that ended up being drawn in the sand. John (from my iPhone)=