From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tima Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: IDE versus emacs Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:43:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <83d30y87yi.fsf@gnu.org> <83626q7zvk.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5jl243r.fsf@gmail.com> <87pq4xbqup.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87d30xatgo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <20121006041754.GA30224@hysteria.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1349502250 29671 80.91.229.3 (6 Oct 2012 05:44:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 05:44:10 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 06 07:44:16 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKNBO-000652-Rt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 07:44:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42293 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKNBI-0005rC-Sr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:44:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60763) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKNBE-0005r4-4s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKNBD-0000pA-9Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:36765) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKNBD-0000oy-2B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i14so713032dad.0 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:44:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=14TkBs6z4h0/T9L0nlUZLlM1GtgS9j3oTaGsxd41Lpk=; b=MUyEgjpt/i6hEmQN/WhGovbcLYorSWNQQDy1V2lv3x4f9cKT+IFPY24GmYvASf3zsy f9fC9oAFsqKiir7jrPm6hRjT0NaxNagWPpz5iCaSdwXYWSrEnwrCnTvdRrjXptoCm3Of REsZ7M/Id4RGst54vPs9R/Wv5pJzvUaDH9S+jG2YDDbTeDpPolBEHOGgaGa/i3LGajFk IJaIA8Jq5vcCIQTDBq/0MfkfCEpZPgi4zHy5EGzC0nfZpJwuqt0e7M340NSJDCkfe9jc dKqJXcgfFPpX8JEgXavtx2HEkH3iHtXjFfEzFvdMrDopt9w83/kdGB0eMMGaCr2RhU8J uifQ== Original-Received: by 10.68.222.40 with SMTP id qj8mr35876015pbc.139.1349502241951; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.72] (adsl-70-143-68-119.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net. [70.143.68.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gj9sm7169819pbc.16.2012.10.05.22.43.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:44:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121006041754.GA30224@hysteria.proulx.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87102 Archived-At: On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tima wrote: >> The programming feature I miss most in emacs is the code browsing: >> jump to the definition of a method, function, class, variable, and >> jump back to the original position. I tried to configure CEDET to do >> this, but have not succeeded so far. >=20 > I have always used TAGs tables created using the etags comand for > this. Then M-. , C-x 5 . and so forth. Yes, I used TAGs in the past. Well documented in the emacs manual and = works as expected. I remember it could not always find the definition though. I think to = get on par with what people called "IDE" the tag system has to = understand the language semantics. And this, as Jai said, is indeed = what Semantic (a part of CEDET) claims to do. I was wondering whether = it is the state of the art or there is a simpler and better successor. --Tima=