From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:05:17 +0900 Message-ID: References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> <7056BAE9-002B-46B7-A60A-9EDE375392EE@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185275149 27504 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2007 11:05:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:05:49 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 13:05:48 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDID5-0006ez-H6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:05:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDID4-0004KG-TE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:05:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IDICq-0004Jt-53 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:05:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IDICn-0004Jh-JN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:05:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDICn-0004Je-Do for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:05:29 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp10.tiki.ne.jp ([218.40.30.107]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IDICm-00074r-HE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:05:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.11.4] (pl497.nas934.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp [210.136.197.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp10.tiki.ne.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l6OB5JUb042400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:05:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 5.3-5.4 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45924 Archived-At: On 24 juil. 07, at 19:05, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 24.07.2007 um 02:17 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary: > >> What is the technical issue with emacs ? > > The texts are spread over hundred and more files. It's not only > menu entries and menu titles, it's also necessary to translate the > customisation buffers, the description of functions and variables. This is not really a technical issue. Because there are ways to identify the strings to localize. I am more specifically asking about this. > And once the act of translation is achieved: how do you describe a > problem with entry 5 of menu 3? By using the French names? By > counting? What when the order is changed? What when someone > decides, according to writing direction, to order the menus from > right to left? I understand what you are saying but that is exactly the case for all the other localized software packages. GNU has developped gettext but one of the flagship applications of the GNU project is not localized at all... Jean-Christophe Helary