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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311950 Archived-At: 28 okt. 2023 kl. 13.37 skrev Andreas Schwab : >> "Absent" has been a perfect synonym to the preposition of "without" >> since the mid-20th century. >=20 > A manual should not use colloquial language, it needs to be understood > by non-native English speakers. Actually 'absent' as a preposition is rather formal than colloquial, but = I agree it doesn't do a lot of good to the text here; just go with = 'without'.