From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chad Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:19:46 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20100317.200901.408057447.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <87sk7y2gh9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <9C7C186F-EDB5-4837-977B-1B9BA2695BD1@mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268941522 5316 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 19:45:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 20:45:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsLee-0008TR-4J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:45:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57898 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsLed-0002qO-JZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:45:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsLG5-0004yO-PV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35441 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsLG4-0004xh-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsLG3-0004aT-1l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:52 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu ([18.7.68.37]:54369) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsLG2-0004aN-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:51 -0400 X-AuditID: 12074425-b7d00ae000002295-e0-4ba27cd641a2 Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (MAILHUB-AUTH-3.MIT.EDU [18.9.21.43]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 3C.32.08853.6DC72AB4; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id o2IJJo9I008720; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.6] (c-98-247-149-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [98.247.149.76]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id o2IJJlQF002095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:19:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122201 Archived-At: On Mar 18, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> The slightly more advanced beginner who doesn't want to use the mouse >> will instead use an arrow key, again like they do in every other >> editing context that they've ever used. Again, they will get no = bell. >=20 > Hmm?? The arrow key will not (in general) deactivate the region. I tested it before I sent my response, just to make sure that it wasn't = some setting of mine. =20 With bzr emacs revno 99685 Run emacs with -Q load some multiline chunk of text sweep out a chunk of that text with the mouse watch it become highlighted Then: hit an arrow key: the cursor moves and the region deactivates Or:=20 =09 hit delete and see the region deleted Or: hit another self-inserting key and see the region deactivated = and the key inserted at the end. It's only that last that betrays new-user expectations. If = delete-selection-mode is enabled, things proceed as the new user = expects. *Chad