From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: please change default value of truncate-partial-width-windows to nil Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244827034 7266 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2009 17:17:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:17:14 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Emacs-Devel devel'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 12 19:17:10 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MFANJ-0004lQ-4e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:17:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58428 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MFANI-00074C-DD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MFAND-000747-GQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MFAN8-00073d-7J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45985 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MFAN8-00073a-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:16:58 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:33468) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MFAN7-0000CO-HC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:16:57 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n5CHC8Xg026454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:12:10 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt006.oracle.com (abhmt006.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n5CHI4oB009227 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:18:05 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.89.108) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:16:51 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcnrgZOQXpVDrrVXQiONz24hNNEOPg== X-Source-IP: abhmt006.oracle.com [141.146.116.15] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4A328D84.02E3:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111454 Archived-At: This new variable should not have been given a non-nil default value. Non-nil overrides the user's preference as expressed via `truncate-lines'. If a user has nil `truncate-lines' (which is still the _default_ value), then lines should not be truncated. End of story. That's the meaning of `truncate-lines' (always has been). If you want the new variable `truncate-partial-width-windows' to override the `truncate-lines' behavior, then let it do so for only a *non*-nil value of `truncate-lines'. Actually, the most reasonable approach might be to not introduce a new option (with the confusion of variable interaction and override), but simply to let `truncate-lines have three possible (buffer-local) values: nil - never truncate lines in the current buffer t - always truncate lines in the current buffer integer - do what integer `truncate-partial-width-windows' does today (Customize sets the default value, not the buffer-local value, of course.) Regardless of what you think of that suggestion, the important thing is this: If `truncate-lines' is nil, then please just do what it says: do not truncate lines, period.