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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Zhu, Shenli'" <zhushenli2@gmail.com>, <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bad default faces now
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:35:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E30A88B8DC054448B46B014D09E29737@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA70C50.5020105@gmail.com>

> > The default faces were changed after Emacs 23.1, and the 
> > result is worse, IMO.
> >
> > I don't care for myself, since I don't use the default 
> > faces, but see the attached screenshot. The faces for
> > the comment, the variable name, and the doc
> > string are all about the same.
> >
> > In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
> >   of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON
> > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
> > configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4)'
>
> I think the new face in 23.1 is very clear, at least better 
> than default face in 22.x. Can you attach the face you use
> for comparison?

I don't understand what you're saying or what you're asking.

The faces in Emacs 23.1 are OK. And as far as I can see they are the same as in
Emacs 22.3.

It is the faces in the pretest I cited that are worse.

I'm not crazy about the default faces in Emacs 22 or 23.1 either. I agree with
the motivation behind the change that was made after 23.1: the doc-string text
is too pale.

All I'm saying is that the current default has faces that are commonly used
together that are too similar: similar in hue, saturation, and brightness.

Both the variable-name face and the doc-string face were apparently moved closer
to the comment face. The variable-name face and the comment face are nearly
indistinguisable now, and all three are very close.

Beyond pointing this out, I really don't care much. If no one else thinks this
is bad, then ignore.





  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-22  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22  5:28 bad default faces now Drew Adams
2010-03-22  6:21 ` Zhu, Shenli
2010-03-22  7:35   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-03-22  9:19     ` Zhu, Shenli
2010-03-22 16:56       ` Drew Adams
2010-03-22 10:36 ` Leo
2010-03-22 11:19   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-22 11:25     ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-22 12:44     ` Leo
2010-03-22 15:28   ` Chong Yidong

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