From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tree-sitter maturity
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:52:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1tPwuR-0004za-1X@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frmfxm8y.fsf@> (message from Björn Bidar on Mon, 23 Dec 2024 02:43:09 +0200)
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Integrating the treesitter grammars smoothly is a good thing to do in
principle, and I don't have much to say about the details assuming it
doesn't lead users to use nonfree software. But there is one big
design issue that is important:
Making Emacs _integrate_ with other tools (as distinguished from
invoking them at build time) is problematical and calls for careful
judgment.
Ideally, users should be able install the grammars separately, perhaps
using their `make install' or `apt', and Emacs would only use them
where they normally get installed. That is ideal because it is not
very integrated -- it preserves modularity. In particular, it assures
that the details of how they get installed are not a direct concern of
Emacs maintenance.
Please forgive this small waste of time, if the point seems obvious to
all of you. I couldn't tell that from the deeply mested messages I
saw.
--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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2024-11-20 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 16:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 6:22 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 10:05 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 11:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 10:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 12:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-20 17:04 ` tomas
2024-11-20 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 2:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 12:34 ` Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Peter Oliver
2024-11-23 13:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-24 2:10 ` Tree-sitter maturity Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <67428b3d.c80a0220.2f3036.adbdSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-17 22:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-18 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 1:40 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20 9:13 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6765355b.c80a0220.1a6b24.3117SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-20 9:29 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-23 0:43 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6768b256.c80a0220.222b1b.64e6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-24 1:20 ` Yuan Fu
[not found] ` <87frmfxm8y.fsf@>
2024-12-24 4:52 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2024-12-24 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 21:31 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-12-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-27 10:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 13:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 14:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 4:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 8:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 8:59 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29 9:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 10:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 20:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 10:13 ` tomas
2024-12-29 10:21 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29 14:59 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 14:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-29 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <904957B9-55C1-42DF-BE6A-16986A4B539A@dancol.org>
[not found] ` <87r05o2eji.fsf@posteo.net>
[not found] ` <E2C32D27-EEC2-4DD2-B6F6-8827820B880E@dancol.org>
2024-12-31 16:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 14:36 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-29 20:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 23:29 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6771db94.050a0220.386e00.e451SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-30 0:30 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-30 0:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-30 1:00 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-31 9:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-30 3:20 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-31 3:22 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-31 22:29 ` Lynn Winebarger
2025-01-01 20:23 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6775a459.170a0220.2f3d1e.1897SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2025-01-04 16:15 ` Lynn Winebarger
2025-01-04 17:39 ` Daniel Colascione
2025-01-04 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 19:30 ` Daniel Colascione
2025-01-04 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 20:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2025-01-04 20:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 21:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2025-01-05 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 21:25 ` Lynn Winebarger
2025-01-04 21:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2025-01-04 23:21 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-28 12:20 ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-28 12:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 14:50 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-27 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-28 1:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-29 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 4:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 6:41 ` tomas
2024-12-29 6:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 6:54 ` tomas
2024-12-29 7:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 8:56 ` tomas
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[not found] ` <87ed1qedhl.fsf@>
2024-12-29 15:21 ` Daniel Colascione
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[not found] ` <6771d84b.050a0220.250914.d0e0SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-30 0:56 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-27 14:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 13:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 18:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 8:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 15:09 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-26 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-26 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-12-19 12:23 ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-19 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 13:15 ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2024-12-20 8:59 ` Björn Bidar
2024-11-21 13:01 ` My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 14:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-22 0:01 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-11-22 23:59 ` Po Lu
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2024-11-21 16:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2024-11-22 9:26 ` Madhu
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2024-11-22 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 13:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2024-11-22 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
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2024-11-27 9:36 ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-27 9:59 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-30 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
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2024-11-30 16:22 ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
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2024-11-30 21:06 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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2024-12-03 7:26 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
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2024-11-23 12:48 ` Christopher Dimech
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2024-11-21 5:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-22 11:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2024-11-21 13:39 ` Andrea Corallo
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2024-11-21 19:19 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 19:40 ` Jim Porter
2024-11-24 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
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2024-11-24 2:35 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes Björn Bidar
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