From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:32:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86ser87rut.fsf@gnu.org> <874j3e2b2i.fsf@> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39552"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 11 05:33:33 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tLEPl-000A7q-7g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2024 05:33:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLEOz-0001eM-NQ; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:32:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLEOt-0001dm-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:32:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLEOs-0003iU-8k; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:32:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=LQpyegEAkB6WHjKWUI3hy6EzWGZzTx3JzidUSvOQDw4=; b=RS+TA9tb++O7 C/QMZnqKxn9pPVAhRTwtMc3zF5hjh0s7xDSLAQG5UYb1WHNiGCsYko9Kz94IAijqaXh7AJFL7JkUZ jWyQ7S+Db1dBFTKdDx6bumAUsxFmJZ5M0I8ZXm03WW1DIBQnmM+iPbDhPDrSzKgF18LAlloZizS4g Q1XZUmlcyMwjZH6D6SzRSbYI5y2ryNgWJo01nOVTCLuqQx/WU2WdUCKwNx+vtKKUY80hQfoYXZZBi b89IjUGZrFxpWcU1ljWO1cAY7mb/kFw0gfwIc9KcJHpjg2YMC+HoJC1cuv5XAQsSFHwnVlOTnZvNG 7I6KKABtiralK9g5X2xzJQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLEOg-00079M-0z; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:32:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874j3e2b2i.fsf@> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar on Sun, 08 Dec 2024 22:07:17 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326317 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > If I want to read manual in Emacs outside of smaller man-pages or > projects which split their manual of several man-pages than I would > prefer to find them in the Info format. I appreciate the wish for that. I wish more Info manuals came in my distro, and that installing a program would install its Info file. > Because of the limited acceptance finding manuals in the info format is hard. "Hard" is an oversomplification of several related obstacles. To iprove this in general, we need to find the way that is effective in general. > > Should we recruit people to package it for various kinds of distros? > Just make packaging easy. Can you (or someone else) suggest specific changes to make specific kinds of packaging easier? > Besides I think openSUSE can be trusted and the Open BuildService is > great software for this kind of purpose. I don't usee that distro. Would you like to give me a brief summary of what it does? What input does it need, and what output does it make? What instructions are neededs to tell it how to package a specific manual? How would it compare with usin writing and using a makefile to do that? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)