From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package c-intro-and-ref -- was Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:22:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86ser87rut.fsf@gnu.org> <86cyia4503.fsf@gnu.org> <87bjxsbc8h.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <87ikrz6wtl.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9032"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Suhail Singh Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 07 05:23:42 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJmM1-0002Ef-Rx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 05:23:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJmLB-0006TI-5C; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJmL8-0006T6-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:22:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJmL8-0006A9-J0; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:22:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=uonjLAAMy+wR8lOmRKfdCwHt3b5gv14GKpTZ+l28vsk=; b=KJO8mdyvL8ff EvvfUafCAUkD6+ZpYLcoDOR+GCuIpufBrBkmXC9PQAqG1bpb4NgK2v56wtH3h2w/C4IVGroWGQkjU ZQN7CstfzG0FiCw7yK4wcPDbFiZvVqn3zx48FUumbmZ3UmoDhJxaHgjKvr7MjThdWRuy8JVyyJnBW oK5MVO9aSrQmCahCkchjal4eqYpdWTlpB0j0aWBuRrdpsPb7OTFXJ9GeZGz4YKb4i+n8yl8llha5z waW9vUJ1RR4R/FvImXHhNccs9Oa6S4Nr/LrrbLvspAks5n+zJDMISJjlZCVG3gvrYB7PVaRhCE68y LLi7dhuxNcRnRwoQAbjKaw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJmL2-0006ey-Qa; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:22:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ikrz6wtl.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Suhail Singh on Wed, 04 Dec 2024 15:02:30 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326152 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] We have learned that there is a general problem with the handling of Info manuals so that the community will see they are available. Several days ago I asked people to please help look for a general solution for this general problem. Packaging my GNU C Mnaual in Emacs will fix one special case of that general problem. But the general problem will remain. Fixing special cases instead of general problems won't make a good system. Can we please try to fix this right? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)