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Fri, 02 Aug 2024 15:25:17 +0200 Received: from mail by rmmprod07.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sZsHV-0003k3-Fn; Fri, 02 Aug 2024 15:25:17 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated alias (1196375)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Fri, 02 Aug 2024 13:25:17 GMT From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Martin=20Edstr=C3=B6m?=" To: "Martin Edström" CC: "emacs-orgmode" Subject: Re: org-indent-mode makes set-goal-column behave surprising Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 15:25:17 +0200 (CEST) X-RMM-Aliasid: 1196375 X-Mailer: RMM6 References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a0c:5a00:149::26; envelope-from=meedstrom@runbox.eu; helo=mailtransmit05.runbox.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: EDDA235E90 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.08 X-Spam-Score: -9.08 X-TUID: IlMD9dxf/9Zv Sorry, I have to add a reproduction step: turn on M-x visual-line-mode. Anyway, it's not an Org bug. Reported upstream: https://debbugs.gnu.org/c= gi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D72420 Martin Edstrom On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:52:55 +0200 (CEST), "Martin Edstr=C3=B6m" wrote: > Hello, pinging back on two old emails that seem related: >=20 > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2008-01/msg00030.html > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-05/msg00654.html >=20 > A bug that can be reproduced on Emacs -Q: >=20 > - Open an org file that has subtrees at various levels > - Do M-x org-indent-mode RET > - Go forward a few chars inside a line, then do M-x set-goal-column RET R= ET > - Now move up and down lines. You'll see that it does not stick to any se= nsible "goal column". >=20 > I myself rely on this technique (set-goal-column), for example to edit th= e start of each list item in a list, without having to navigate to beginnin= g of line again on each item. But it only works if there are no headings (o= r org-indent-mode is disabled).