From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MPS and pgtk Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 23:11:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878qyr6ewh.fsf@disroot.org> <86h6df6izq.fsf@gnu.org> <86jziapu1b.fsf@aarsen.me> <871q47freu.fsf@> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38502"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 07 05:11:57 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sQIJh-0009oo-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Jul 2024 05:11:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQIIt-0007Zb-Gx; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 23:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQIIs-0007ZP-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 23:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQIIr-0004kf-Iy; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 23:11:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=etY/WNmPKU8F+x5p+IYfLom6TAkKghp8AQ28RXkdyfo=; b=kWqXn2E54GAJ VNIXvdWGy8b7f/shvkOGGxZ1alKM9cfulwKG4QypVcq4O/5yqjBfKi56AO+uahGVjYUgP/17H117f 1Jjy3qRW3KEnwQfXUfIF6WcN2A8KIF0utGNmehIoXyYg1ROWQlmHkQ2sPJtd9ZbV4+0ih0BC8FQy6 W2Oxne0121e4R9T5tO+bbVYq0VbSmLgpbNzOp0am/7kp7AbxXnVvhyeByASFX2pM6c2JVagYEWVgg 2QaQbGSov5ziGBQyewP4YCWPhGjEYF1/BVCCFr38VFCHpgQGH8qTcQLsw/z1oJE6vhJsLdK+bx1FS ApYgbc/T+42Cc+qxkQmg8A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQIIr-00043a-AF; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 23:11:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871q47freu.fsf@> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar on Sat, 06 Jul 2024 00:41:13 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321464 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The biggest issue is IMHO the GTK developers as they limit the GDK > Wayland backend to the protocols that want and not what someone behind > their horizon want. That statement is so vague that I can't begin to tell what it means or what it implies. It might be an important issue, but you have not said enough to make that visible. Could you please describe in concrete terms the practical problems for users that result from this? If this makes Emacs support for Wayland difficult to write or inconvenient to use, should we ask the developers of that backend to ork with us on making it support Emacs better? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)