From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 11:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> <87wmm45l03.fsf@posteo.net> <44819FBF-2B9D-4812-A9A0-F25D500569A5@dancol.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1246"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, philipk@posteo.net, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 02 17:37:15 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOfZC-000AY2-Gv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 17:37:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOfYg-0001Ld-IZ; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 11:36:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOfYd-0001HW-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 11:36:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOfYc-0007op-S2; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 11:36:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=zEmEGzi49kE8PrasjtgSe008ReOP0cCDRePIQIlOdLI=; b=OSqns23w/PRT PCBS98/8PUrLbGfyuvlRgrf6cm+jctc6Df0wfRt6wddA295HpbIfUdUfN4g5bDExycrZ/L6Mrljuw fdCbRz1sbZO4+kSLboiR9zcJBrkg2cVl/fkNxvC3fGW2B6/Kman62hR83e2dcwPMeZv455GF9GpMZ i6KQ12uOOpO/DSSLpB0Gn8NgocI8zRU1WE0bH/5bQzaZeVuNTeEzU3zeSf0hydNJp4e0385yKQaHa Inj1lWcgzbxPDnD1zCwYIOurwwlD1y8bsl4ezW/oHfCzhjHSAs+4qFpS1KFUWGf9TToNkVTvwKH2K +pScRJZ5gvZ3ZhUW09eodw==; Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOfYZ-0002ec-Rl; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 11:36:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44819FBF-2B9D-4812-A9A0-F25D500569A5@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Tue, 02 Jul 2024 09:55:07 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321178 Archived-At: >> >> +@kindex C-x 4 S-LEFT >> >> +@kindex C-x 4 S-RIGHT >> >> +@kindex C-x 4 S-UP >> >> +@kindex C-x 4 S-DOWN >> >> + >> >> +These commands are like the other directional movement commands, except >> >> +that Emacs, instead of moving point to the window in the desired >> >> +direction, moves the whole buffer state, as if taking the current buffer >> >> +and moving it to the desired window. >> >> + > >I thought we were just talking about four bindings, here. Now you want >to create a full eight new bindings. That sounds a bit excessive. No? Bindings aren't precious. They are _very_ precious; specially good ones! This is descending into absurdity very quickly... Do you have a infinite keyboard? >Also S-LEFT, etc., won't work in unenhanced ttys. > >How often do users really want to "drag" a buffer into a different >window? I do it all the time. In 35+ of using Emacs, I've never had the need to "move" a buffer from one window or frame to another.