From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Including unconditionally in Emacs Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1906c20b-1c6a-4fce-9e55-9667b32ec8f4@cs.ucla.edu> <86ikykdj9z.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22877"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 11 17:02:47 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sH31K-0005gz-Lz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:02:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sH30Z-0000nf-Rc; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sH30X-0000mF-Hr for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:01:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sH30W-0007NS-F9; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:01:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=/ezJ6uvhkx9tfPAla17XeFCSBIVLdCyl+7cot6CtGGM=; b=q8knxHCbH33a /GpSazdg+waCk2w2IrC81Hw/bWDchBFOdikVGnvljlOqc2mZ9aCDTUYtGwLKNVPnjjLs9o4SSm+1w 7A7XL1ozI6SjcmsMW0Knjuz+71hClmsY84vARFP2IwV5fO/OCm8BZqtEGhP22maJc6SeO4CTuj/+S TtN8H9e4AGJkYaqaPvYuVGHCc2QZO1xw0gnYvzc2xC5ZHA5Vt+KDLuwNdv1uCcqMn2EfCXMNsSES9 /KG1Ku2yzHd39TPx2OFY39v6wRNJ42h5QcBAc24BoZdOQaZl/BgJI6TkUoYxUZBITUa3mFsqSYaQx D/go3h8qbfnP7XUfvn5OKQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sH30V-0004K7-11; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:01:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86ikykdj9z.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 08 Jun 2024 09:46:00 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319976 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > But in general I have the feeling that there is a tendency in parts of > > our community to drop support for old systems too fast.... > > > > So let's stay cautious about this. > We are, at least in this project. Some say we are too cautious. If we are cautious enough, there will surely be people who say that. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)