From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Drifting towards a statically typed Emacs Lisp. [Was: Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter]
Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 19:52:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1s5DYa-0006SX-3y@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZjpR3hHfIBjjmb7d@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Tue, 7 May 2024 16:07:58 +0000)
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> > Emacs Lisp should not be turned into a statically typed language.
> > without losing any useful content, ....
> Not really - what would have been lost is the equivalent of ".... and I
> see this process happening at the moment.". The frog metaphor was an
> economical way of phrasing this. Again, I'm sorry it caused offence.
I worry about this too.
This is not the first time that Lisp compilation has inspired adding
features to declare types of various values that apear inside Lisp
functions. For instance, that happened with Maclisp in the 1970s.
That pressure is not necessarily overwhelming; it does not necessarily
pressure programmers to declare types in all their code. When I wrote
Lisp code in the 1970s, I did not declare types. I was not required
to do so.
But what worries e is that users who want the highest speed
will put pressure on all Emacs developers to add type declaratons
everywhere to give those users the highest possible speed.
--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-09 23:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-07 10:37 Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter Andrea Corallo
2024-05-07 12:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-07 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 16:07 ` Drifting towards a statically typed Emacs Lisp. [Was: Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter] Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-07 17:06 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-07 23:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-07 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 0:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-07 23:29 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-09 23:52 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2024-05-10 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 16:37 ` Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter Tomas Hlavaty
2024-05-07 16:54 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-07 23:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-07 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-07 16:13 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 17:58 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-13 2:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-13 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-13 21:12 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-14 6:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-09 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-10 7:47 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 10:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-10 11:42 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-10 18:02 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 18:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-09 9:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-05-10 7:58 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 8:09 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-05-10 8:19 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
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