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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should native compilation be enabled by default?
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2024 21:29:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1riPzb-0007P3-Ri@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yp18r2xxapy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Andrea Corallo on Tue, 05 Mar 2024 04:57:13 -0500)

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  >   On general principles we can see that native
  > > compilation is likely to go wrong because something has disappeared,
  > > or because of bugs in other programs that you wouldnt otherwise ever
  > > use.
  > >
  > > Native compilation is useful mainly for power users who want
  > > to run Lisp programs that normally are too slow.  There is no sense
  > > directing most users into doing things gthe complex way instead
  > > of the simple way.

  > I don't see why native compilation should be more complex for users,
  > AFAIK is transparent.

I meant complex in one specific sense.  You're talking about a
different sense, so we are talking past each other,

  > Anyway as a data point: AFAIK major distros decided since a while to
  > ship with native compilation as (I assume) they deemed it beneficial for
  > their users.

I ssppose so.  But the fact that they think so is not a convincing
argument for us.

If we poll the users, we would have a basis to conclude that those
distros' choice is wise, or that it was hasty and unwise.  It is
better to make sure of this than to follow the herd.

As I stated a few days ago, there may be a better alternative
somewhere between "yes, always" and "no, never".

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-08  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-29 10:56 Native compilation on as default? Andrea Corallo
2024-02-29 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-29 15:07   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-29 16:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-02  3:08 ` Should native compilation be enabled by default? Richard Stallman
2024-03-02  7:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-05  3:42     ` Richard Stallman
2024-03-05  4:51       ` T.V Raman
2024-03-05  9:31         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-05 15:02           ` T.V Raman
2024-03-05 15:39             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-05 16:01               ` T.V Raman
2024-03-05 17:03                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-05 15:59             ` Suhail Singh
2024-03-05 16:46               ` T.V Raman
2024-03-05 12:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-05 15:04           ` T.V Raman
2024-03-05 15:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-05 16:03               ` T.V Raman
2024-03-05 16:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-05 16:11             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-05 16:47               ` T.V Raman
2024-03-05  9:57       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-08  2:29         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2024-03-08  8:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-05 12:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-08  2:29         ` Richard Stallman
2024-03-08  8:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-08  2:29         ` Richard Stallman
2024-03-05 20:42       ` Björn Bidar
2024-03-14 17:15         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-15 12:44           ` Colin Baxter
2024-03-15 16:01             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-15 13:14               ` Colin Baxter
2024-03-15 13:29                 ` Colin Baxter
2024-03-15 13:53                   ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-15 15:08                     ` Colin Baxter
2024-03-15 15:13                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-15 15:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-15 16:26                     ` Colin Baxter
2024-03-15 17:08                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-15 20:35                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-16  8:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-15 15:21                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-15 16:24                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-15 16:47                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-15 15:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <87a5ncfm1r.fsf@>
2024-03-08  2:29         ` Richard Stallman
2024-03-08  8:06           ` Eli Zaretskii

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