From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:08:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <875y0i7e43.fsf@hoowl.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12713"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas , philipk@posteo.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 08 22:09:00 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rMwri-00033Y-A5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:08:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMwr7-0002Rr-7i; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:08:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMwr3-0002QY-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:08:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMwr2-00051O-Eh; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:08:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=r2yIH6ARKTZuv1oZC1gtZ6l+XgX87SxzQHqDLTzdrCE=; b=NUIKrrd5EWpq 6edC9ENg9h9Xn02VjgzZAG8jTNqy+fHkQFe8zW7Ubw8IgrSHmwVXZYMpkkD7CZmLAQch67O90MDbD TXP+whzVl+FdQTPSxFnNU7j7kSW8fBQ8+i/dUQjF2ex6JQA6p/mASNIF4k41sqmg3f1bo79hYEFvE PbW2THTbj4Lyf+q4DBI4guuTCikx//yWJqguP1+dIaf7sazp4ViqTSR7HiiHOnzJCm8nZsnJXQGkn IoEK5X0p1z8SQWFKWmLF7SG8ZyQ4IAq/B737fBmR784sOZV+BUmZEq1PSt7qFv46E6D/Wz4KKRMWg 2z+McJdpmT/IqAxLGHjQXA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMwqu-0008NQ-Os; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:08:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:01:09 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314759 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Please do install jami-bit, but DO NOT install org-jami-bot without some changes. Before that is installed, it needs to be changed not to require or presuppose Org format. We have not adopted Org format as the standard Emacs format for text, because it would not be adequate for that. Designing additional packages to impose the use of Org format, even though they have nothing to do with Org, pushes Emacs in a direction that is not a good design. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)