From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib? Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2023 22:28:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <46ab3c7d-d820-4bb4-8ec4-97c614d7c8a0@alphapapa.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3372"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: adam@alphapapa.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 02 03:30:03 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qyNT8-0000iE-F4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 03:30:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyNS6-0004gF-O1; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 22:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyNS5-0004fU-5b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 22:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyNS4-0000Nk-MF; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 22:28:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=sbtJCLVp+f2chE9Nru5gRdb3HexURfQP/GrCOvZHR1Q=; b=pCkrcRs8suly tBO/Hufwje4/L7LO8YQ4A/sjL/neRv5H1lqraN72dOug+ot6Aw5yqqODS8Oa7G3iSeYcqwkw7Z1Xv jA0+f4ENQBFqcWbmEIQ9qzRTsGHpBmB4Wkj3bEbnuQWXYbVaeadXnl/s6dE0wTtumN422u2vDnM5e ulPodCQ2CwUm2uj1uGw5ljHjHYD5lSASljwSfIxkQs+QArA6IjYH8dX5/FTE3p4/4zsEK+S+GnHbQ obZ2Ml6cmAoWu1fRLaoR3NUGSk495vCtPXfYJ0J04etRmJDB1HtTZjllk/KAxAaDwMexXfyVwhEEo vrfxB/1ja1zm300wkWicng==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyNS3-0007fw-AS; Wed, 01 Nov 2023 22:28:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= on Tue, 31 Oct 2023 10:38:09 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312103 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] It might be ok to add some keyword arguments to `sort', which are more unusual and complex to use, but not to simple constructs like `pushnew'. This is Emacs Lisp, not Common Lisp. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)