From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:11:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <835y38qvlg.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkcx6eci.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83ttqnm4ti.fsf@gnu.org> <83lebyu5yx.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18924"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 23 04:12:04 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qukQD-0004fE-Jj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 04:12:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qukPl-0007AM-62; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qukPk-0007AE-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:11:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qukPk-00007Z-61; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:11:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=WyxhloofITtxB77glLD8niEQCyN6DZoD3bpmm+o9f8I=; b=kUrc9V8HUvSn suynAX1Fd4DG4m/XRFcutsnIOrLm9nslS3wpi6cTx5CkaH3Tw6/AXivfA/jS3tvlI0/4819lAwURz uxr1yqAmqIpot3xdR/bQjaqTsY4cPXxhpunDR0/fOIuSGJzOlW4HVPeBDQkFq7eOvh7n53GYTkRUi 8qZTrSl5hLChOZ5hpQY4Fx9UQgJIdMHGceuOzQE6OoX7bkxgPl6ICmczlsMo+buGsnj3IOzd/wK1U AvxTsV5etwcglDMvf4T9x6Z1vnw2EkOL22PFB8KvxNVuMKhnJAyuBjJ03RZ86qRByVjJU4EYMLHRd CRKXnQk13jWxDhuva2E8jA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qukPj-00079x-Uo; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:11:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sat, 21 Oct 2023 12:05:43 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311692 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > So it would appear there are no cl- functions used in the dumped .el > files which would cause cl-lib to be loaded. That is good news. Thanks for studying this. Nonetheless, we do have some problems. For instance, the debugger should not load cl-lib. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)