From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 01:19:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs3dgxv8.fsf@gnu.org> <835y38qvlg.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkcx6eci.fsf@dataswamp.org> <8734y7p7sz.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83v8b3mcuj.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39127"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 21 07:20:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qu4PO-0009xp-48 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 07:20:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qu4OJ-0001JG-0o; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 01:19:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qu4OH-0001Ii-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 01:19:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qu4OH-0004tr-6A; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 01:19:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=C6ROFM5Ja70PfHGeF7rONhKi0sftrIsBydwNgdFIlxw=; b=D3pCmv4hQuLR XFkH2IY6QiEXzWLvxRxB2I4f1i1Fzo5np97OnhzvaHydbv5S5LjpDz1wog/WNzyOC04Lzevh9kU87 HNsYffMPFeA1bZDPg4gW3nbvgUjY90eERIsVH7vUZvSkq77EU2m1T5rsv3sOToFZsbMOrWVbiveym HBeX8u2PihA2q0UKHWifD7K19tjZf5buFwscDymlicbf/AcCiSXZS+QVkgI768+j7Yvq68glASUOy xTPtb/gmw8nAbcfZnYmo37N17Lm8aq3nNcKNG7ct9guSt2t7nX+9MFa8af7+30wPgHcy0nxskR2TE BxFmnMLRJLgpGz9S5qa0hw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qu4OG-0004Tc-Ps; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 01:19:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83v8b3mcuj.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 19 Oct 2023 07:54:12 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311634 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > That is not true, since in "emacs -Q" I get this: > (featurep 'cl-lib) => nil > both in GUI and TTY (i.e. -nw) sessions. Interesting. I am glad I was mistaken about that file. But I wonder how I made the mistake. I recall sending a first email some weeks ago in which I said which file caused loading of cl-lib. But I can't find that outgoing message now. Did anyone here receive that message? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)