From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 20:37:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87v8d0iqa5.fsf@posteo.net> <87cyz3vaws.fsf@localhost> <87a5tzsbvl.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36771"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, emacs-tangents@gnu.org, jporterbugs@gmail.com To: Andrew Hyatt Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 09 02:38:07 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qelz8-00097Q-1P for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 02:38:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qelyv-0008PZ-HM; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 20:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qelyu-0008PR-8k for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 20:37:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qelyt-0006GS-0u; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 20:37:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=E/gov5IeqMAVredwNYJcT2bmyYW9jxbl/x0CHeDbxqg=; b=UEkfjgTBPUBp kxk1YeWNddfK2X5FrTmJBFxdsGCx+0X25+Zl8zoUpLHGSfi0Bryn/0zgUC7+lvvECqQtabI/2jfzR zXcplZAeIl8o2zXbQmm8cFDIJyw66gf/vXycWTgPlz/r8bhF2J2lq08GtiAIXpRCKa2uqVS8FBCI/ wKN2nGg9CYINNNSYu/5mIBfpZmGf09IPSKMaXj+rNJUALj2wmRcl9S8JoK5HpPPVoFunS+gLfaqFa 25te1StySvZ1XE0qjbn/1LdIoxUSJphiq3D1sM5eRq+o66v0xf4XLsn+j7aeCQFJuTreLNaxEcDcq XiD2xTFw4rRLy+4QsBpYww==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qelys-0003W1-MQ; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 20:37:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Andrew Hyatt on Wed, 6 Sep 2023 12:59:26 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:1057 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > In addition, you can pay money to train your own model (via fine-tuning) on > top of Open AI's model. Most other providers also let you do this. The > model is "yours", and the training is controlled by you with no > restrictions I know of. You can't separate it from the underlying model > (for technical reasons). I don't know the legal aspects of restrictions on > using your own fine-tuned model, but you still access it via SaaSS. Thanks for informing me about this -- it is interesting. However, in regard to freedom and control, it doesn't really change things. That scheme is the neural network equivalent of making a patch set with which to modify the standard version of a program. If you could get your own copy of the program source, apply your patch set, and run that patched version, you'd have control over that version. Under a suitable free license, that would amount to free software. The situation with TeX is that way. But what they are doing makes it SaaSS all the way. It's legitimate to offer a service of virtual servers on which you can run your choice of system and software. But systems and software that you can't extract from those particular virtual servers are not free software. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)