From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why shouldn't we have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp?
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2023 20:58:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1qdgsQ-0000iT-8p@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZPW2X558t42Q2_3O@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:50:07 +0000)
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> For example, in CC Mode there is a chunk of code looking like ....
> (when (fboundp 'electric-indent-local-mode) ; Emacs 24.4 or later.
> (electric-indent-local-mode (if c-electric-flag 1 0)))
> , and there are quite a few instances like it. Here, there is a comment
> about which versions are relevant, but that is somewhat unusual. Note
> here that we would have to test both the major and minor version numbers
> to do this correctly.
> I intend to replace that code with
> (static-if (fboundp 'electric-indent-local-mode) ; Emacs 24.4 or later.
> (electric-indent-local-mode (if c-electric-flag 1 0)))
> .. (hash-if has been renamed static-if.) It would be more work to
> replace it with
> (when (or (> emacs-major-version 24)
> (and (= emacs-major-version 24)
> (>= emacs-minor-version 4)))
> (electric-indent-local-mode (if c-electric-flag 1 0)))
If you want to have a conditional about version mumbers,
I think that is the right way to write it.
Or, if you want to keep the condition about the availability of
electric-indent-local-mode, how about keeping the code unchanged
> (when (fboundp 'electric-indent-local-mode) ; Emacs 24.4 or later.
> (electric-indent-local-mode (if c-electric-flag 1 0)))
and inform the byte compiler that (fboundp 'electric-indent-local-mode)
can be optimized based on the Emacs cersion? This way you won't need
to change the source code, and we will get the ideal results,
> static-if is a completely ordinary macro which is 10 lines long
> (including doc string), and there's a new section in the elisp manual for
> it.
I think the simplicity of the source code as it will be
counts for more than the simplicity of a new macro
which, with my approach, we don't need o add.
--
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-28 19:37 Why shouldn't we have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp? Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-28 19:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-28 20:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-28 21:01 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-28 21:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-31 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 7:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-04 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 10:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-04 11:02 ` tomas
2023-09-04 15:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-04 18:57 ` tomas
2023-09-06 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 0:58 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2023-09-06 7:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-06 9:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-06 9:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-09 0:39 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 10:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-10 8:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-13 23:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-20 12:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 0:30 ` Why have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp, when we could make the existing code DTRT unchanged? Richard Stallman
2023-09-05 0:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-08 17:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-05 4:37 ` tomas
2023-09-05 5:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 6:28 ` tomas
2023-09-05 11:06 ` Adam Porter
2023-09-05 11:26 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-09-05 14:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-08 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-08 2:45 ` Po Lu
2023-09-10 0:24 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-05 8:14 ` Why shouldn't we have a #if .... #else .... #endif construct in Emacs Lisp? Ulrich Mueller
2023-08-28 19:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-29 9:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-29 10:36 ` João Távora
2023-08-29 11:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-29 11:20 ` João Távora
2023-08-30 20:48 ` Sean Whitton
2023-08-30 20:59 ` João Távora
2023-09-02 23:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-09-03 0:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-03 12:27 ` João Távora
2023-08-29 12:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-29 13:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-02 23:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-08-29 16:28 ` LdBeth
2023-08-29 20:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-30 10:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-30 17:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-30 18:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-08-30 18:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-02 15:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-02 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-02 19:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-03 4:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 10:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-03 11:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 13:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-02 19:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-02 19:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-02 19:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-09-04 11:12 ` Lynn Winebarger
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