From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, ahyatt@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2023 21:27:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1qcyN3-0001al-5t@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cyz3vaws.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Thu, 31 Aug 2023 09:06:11 +0000)
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> > As for LLMs that run on servers, they are a different issue entirely.
> > They are all SaaSS (Service as a Software Substitute), and SaaSS is
> > always unjust.
> >
> > See https://gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
> > for explanation.
> I do not fully agree here. A number of more powerful LLMs have very
> limiting hardware requirements. For example, some LLMs require 64+Gbs of
> RAM to run:
That is true, and it is unfortunate. There may be no practical way
to run a certain model except for SaaSS.
That does not alter the injustice of SaaSS. So we should not silence
our criticism of SaaSS in those cases,
If a user decides to run that model as SaaSS, given this situation,
that is per responsibility. We will not try to prevent per from
doing so, But we should inform per of the injustice so perse can
make that decision aware of the injustice. This is very important.
--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-04 1:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-07 23:54 [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-08 5:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-08 15:08 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-08-08 15:09 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-09 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09 4:37 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-13 1:43 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13 1:43 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-13 2:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-08-15 5:14 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-15 17:12 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-17 2:02 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-17 2:48 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-19 1:51 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19 9:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21 8:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-17 17:08 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-19 1:49 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-19 8:15 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-21 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21 4:48 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21 5:12 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-21 6:03 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-21 6:36 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-08-22 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16 2:30 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-16 5:11 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-08-18 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 1:07 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-27 13:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-28 1:31 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28 2:32 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-28 2:59 ` Jim Porter
2023-08-28 4:54 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-31 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 9:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 16:29 ` chad
2023-09-01 9:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:27 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 1:27 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2023-09-06 12:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:51 ` Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:59 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-09 0:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 22:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-07 7:28 ` Lucien Cartier-Tilet
2023-09-07 7:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-09 0:38 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 10:28 ` Collaborative training of Libre LLMs (was: Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm)) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 11:19 ` Jean Louis
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-10 2:18 ` Debanjum Singh Solanky
2023-08-27 18:36 ` [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm Jim Porter
2023-08-28 0:19 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04 1:27 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 5:18 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-07 1:21 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-12 4:54 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-12 9:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-12 15:05 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-19 16:26 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-19 16:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-19 18:19 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-09-04 1:27 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-09 4:06 ` Andrew Hyatt
2023-08-12 2:44 ` Richard Stallman
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