From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Clojure mode Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:07:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87a5uw9ivs.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttt42gna.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmy080kn.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8djcydl.fsf@gnu.org> <87350ndquw.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83350ncbns.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyzrjbd8.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83zg2vav46.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87zg2hsyrd.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87h6ontwfv.fsf@posteo.net> <4874df51-9652-f9fd-0576-9dd6a4cba31a@gutov.dev> <3d5ef276-ce6b-9ff0-0c60-1da6b887b365@gutov.dev> <1070e416-2a13-49e0-90d4-fbc526cd461c@app.fastmail.com> <83ttskia84.fsf@gnu.org> <97c96b72-ebba-4853-98d2-86e3ba8bbc05@app.fastmail.com> <83sf84i9ix.fsf@gnu.org> <837cpfhzdm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33988"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 31 04:07:50 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX65-0008Yc-Kf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:07:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX62-0004bY-Rp; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX61-0004Vl-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:07:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX61-0006NP-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:07:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=JtDGKCxTAVbeoebWTlhTlKadv8PV0rzjNkAPZWsMzRE=; b=VsPNOXBh9rmk 4Uj2FcMZVvwEDDeXvfv/vudqYIZVsGhKZrDuPJ7AfMj6DAJP6FPLatlGjfqRGihJpqNXzLyYzTBSE eTrnqGkb3RmVv7ar3hmr41QJdQzTsqYXtvbtbQP6InQSGtBQB6fmdk8LYgdvpV9MfZ/AtOuKjgQml MqG3WC1Ql5Z1rvw8vlLfG4wqtRlXJYKosjYNhfitiMvYwqQX3RY0VX9NXTUYmyXqbDz1B9iB8E+nJ 2PjC7B+9iX419pf1Du+Vdyozzs+iR0e01kUtjEVvMrcfbwUsX0tYqqPRxHVXbd80WhTjtifD6v/Wh 627EXcIP98LIFVIXhyNraw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qbX60-0003TB-Ev; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:07:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837cpfhzdm.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:04:37 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309575 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The current idea of including ELPA packages is to include them in the > release tarball, so that for the end-user it looks exactly like a core > package. We can do that with some GNU ELPA packages, but the GNU Project cannot distribute NonGNU ELPA packages as part of GNU Emacs. The point of NonGNU ELPA is to make it easier for users to access some of the packages that we can't include in GNU Emacs. But it is still indirect. We cannot do anything that treats them as part of GNU Emacs. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)